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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Russian SKS => Topic started by: Power Surge on July 04, 2015, 10:00:48 PM

Title: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Power Surge on July 04, 2015, 10:00:48 PM
What do you guys think?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=493062207
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 04, 2015, 10:10:06 PM
Yes, but its kinda beat up
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Dannyboy53 on July 04, 2015, 11:29:17 PM
I didnt think that bayonet was standard issue but a refurb item.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 04, 2015, 11:45:59 PM
The yellow?   I don't think anyone has definitively answered the yellow vs non vs polished conundrum.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Dannyboy53 on July 05, 2015, 12:02:06 AM
Yeah I've seen lots of conflicting statements on the web over that bayonet color issue, we'll probably never know for sure.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 05, 2015, 12:18:32 AM
How does anyone know they were not the black version and converted later?  The 49 spikes are blued.   whistle12
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Dannyboy53 on July 05, 2015, 12:24:48 AM
I think those blued spikes are cool!
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Direct Connection on July 05, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
The starting price should make every non-referb Izzy owner happy  :o
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Power Surge on July 05, 2015, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: Direct Connection on July 05, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
The starting price should make every non-referb Izzy owner happy  :o

The starting bid don't mean squat if nobody bids lol.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 05, 2015, 09:17:26 PM
They will, but it may not reach reserve
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: running-man on July 06, 2015, 12:03:03 PM
This gun has been around since at least the May GB report.  I've weeded it out of completed listings (bid on but reserve not met) at least once before...

$2500 BIN is a total pipe dream.  Not for this year gun in this condition....
Heck, $1000 might even be a pipe dream, things aren't that bad in the SKS45 market (yet). silly1
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 06, 2015, 12:05:52 PM
Yup.. With a bin that high, his reserve is likely not far behind it.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Power Surge on July 06, 2015, 12:10:37 PM
It makes me laugh sometimes... I've seen listings that have updates to the descriptions (where it shows the date the description was updated) that go back to 2014. Some of these guns have been on there that long, and yet people just don't get their guns aren't worth what they are asking.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 06, 2015, 12:33:57 PM
That reminds me....  I wanna put up the non import Iraqi with a BIN around 12k, reserve at 11k, and do some fishing.   rofl

What?   Its a good way to find out what its actually worth by observing the high bits each time it closes.    :P
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: M26PERSHING on July 06, 2015, 01:54:18 PM
To most collectors, "refurb" means "Oh no" to me "refurb" means corrected and / or updated. I adore the Russian refurbs black bolt = no glare, BBQ paint = no rust, excessive shellac = sealed, grey rear sight = easier on the eyes.  :P
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: dbluefish on July 08, 2015, 10:56:10 PM
$2500???? = 143043.49 rubles!   I love to see folks dream.  Would seem to be maybe one or so out there that could get that price.

paul
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Direct Connection on July 09, 2015, 02:53:19 AM
I believe 5 years ago 600.00 was a dream. I also remember 5-6 years ago not even some gun stores new what they had when selling these things. That's all changed now and the Russian SkS has finally reached Hall of Fame status when it comes to Milsurp collecting. Some might disagree but I dont even shoot ANY of my Russians anymore. Besplode
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Phosphorus32 on July 09, 2015, 10:16:39 AM
A nice non-refurb '54 Izhevsk just got snapped up for $1150 6' after he finally posted a purchase price (he was looking for trades) on The Trader at Gunboards.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?404034-Wiw-54-izhevsk-non-refurb-pic-heavy
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: CARBINE on July 09, 2015, 10:26:42 AM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on July 09, 2015, 10:16:39 AM
A nice non-refurb '54 Izhevsk just got snapped up for $1150 6' after he finally posted a purchase price (he was looking for trades) on The Trader at Gunboards.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?404034-Wiw-54-izhevsk-non-refurb-pic-heavy

Looks like a nice one!
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Direct Connection on July 10, 2015, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: M26PERSHING on July 06, 2015, 01:54:18 PM
To most collectors, "refurb" means "Oh no" to me "refurb" means corrected and / or updated. I adore the Russian refurbs black bolt = no glare, BBQ paint = no rust, excessive shellac = sealed, grey rear sight = easier on the eyes.  :P

I picked this one up about 5 years ago. Its as referb as referb gets but I couldn't resists. It came with the Russian Box and the goodies. Oh ,, Ive never seen cob webs in a bbl before I bought this one either :))
(http://media.use.com/images/s_2/47386f59dd7721aebe76_1.jpg) (http://www.use.com/47386f59dd7721aebe76?p=1)
(http://www.use.com/images/clicklarge3.gif) (http://www.use.com/47386f59dd7721aebe76?p=1)
(http://media.use.com/images/s_2/47386f59dd7721aebe76_2.jpg) (http://www.use.com/47386f59dd7721aebe76?p=2)
(http://www.use.com/images/clicklarge3.gif) (http://www.use.com/47386f59dd7721aebe76?p=2)
(http://media.use.com/images/s_2/47386f59dd7721aebe76_3.jpg) (http://www.use.com/47386f59dd7721aebe76?p=3)
(http://www.use.com/images/clicklarge3.gif) (http://www.use.com/47386f59dd7721aebe76?p=3)
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: M26PERSHING on July 11, 2015, 12:41:18 AM
OH MY SHE IS GORGEOUS !!!!
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Dannyboy53 on July 11, 2015, 01:13:47 PM
Good looking one DC, I love the blued bolt/carrier!
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Direct Connection on July 12, 2015, 12:45:58 AM
Oh thanks, I didnt mean to hijack the thread but like me I see others like the black out on Russians too..  ::) Since the pics ive switch bayos with another referb and it now wears a black bayo..
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: pcke2000 on November 24, 2015, 06:56:42 PM
Here we go again:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=523458871
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: pcke2000 on November 24, 2015, 06:58:15 PM
obviously the seller is smart enough this time to not show detachable magazines (as he posted a few months ago)
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Carl in CT on December 01, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
I wouldn't pay $901 for that, which was the high bid last time and didn't even hit reserve. That seller needs to get real or he will be waiting a very long time for a sucker who is desperate to have an Izzy right this minute in any condition at any cost.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Direct Connection on December 01, 2015, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: Carl in CT on December 01, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
I wouldn't pay $901 for that, which was the high bid last time and didn't even hit reserve. That seller needs to get real or he will be waiting a very long time for a sucker who is desperate to have an Izzy right this minute in any condition at any cost.

Ha ha ha Ive never sold on GB but is there an insertion fee for every time you post up or only if it sales ?

I kinda got mixed emotions on this one because its really not pretty enough for collector safe queen status but its not a referb either.. So 900.00 i believe is a more then fair price for that seller IMO. 
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: pcke2000 on December 01, 2015, 10:32:26 PM
it was not taken good care of. One strange thing about this carbine is the plum color barrel. The seller told me it's because the barrel material was similar to that used on Finn plum barrel M39's, which I didn't buy. I guess it may be due to overheat caused by shooting.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Direct Connection on December 01, 2015, 11:35:17 PM
I have a couple Yugo M57 Toks that have that tint of plum color to them. I thought it was from maybe being soaked in cosmoline for years or something.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Carl in CT on December 02, 2015, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: Direct Connection on December 01, 2015, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: Carl in CT on December 01, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
I wouldn't pay $901 for that, which was the high bid last time and didn't even hit reserve. That seller needs to get real or he will be waiting a very long time for a sucker who is desperate to have an Izzy right this minute in any condition at any cost.

Ha ha ha Ive never sold on GB but is there an insertion fee for every time you post up or only if it sales ?

I kinda got mixed emotions on this one because its really not pretty enough for collector safe queen status but its not a referb either.. So 900.00 i believe is a more then fair price for that seller IMO.

From GB:
"We charge no 'insertion' fees. There are two types of fees that may be incurred when you list or sell items on GunBroker.com. We charge a Final Value Fee that is assessed only if your item ends with a winning bidder or is purchased using the BuyNow! function. We offer Optional Services which can be used to enhance the listing and must be paid for whether or not the item is sold. If you choose to use any of our Optional Services and the item does not sell, it can be relisted free of charge using the same options."

Yeah, $900 is not outrageous but it's more than I would pay for it for all of the reasons you mention. It's in no man's land. Too rare and valuable to abuse but far too beat up to be a safe queen. So in my mind it's a shooter that happens to be a bit rare. I'm not spending $900 on any shooter SKS. If I was looking for an as-issued Izzy for a collection I'd spend a few hundred more and get a nice one.
Title: Re: Non-reurb Izzy?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on December 02, 2015, 09:15:35 AM
Bluing color is subject to the bluing salts and the mixture used, temperature, and length of time submerged in the solution.   Dont be surprised seeing color variances from one part/gun to the next.