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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Chinese SKS (Military) => Topic started by: escobert on July 28, 2015, 10:43:17 AM

Title: /26\ 6million
Post by: escobert on July 28, 2015, 10:43:17 AM
Alrighty here you go guys.

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Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: running-man on July 28, 2015, 10:48:16 AM
Nice looking gun. 

That stock isn't original to it though.  I think $400+ is a bit high for it honestly.  In the grand scheme of things 6015736 is really not much different than gun 7015736 except for a single digit on the receiver. :)
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 28, 2015, 10:51:19 AM
Quote from: running-man on July 28, 2015, 10:48:16 AM
Nice looking gun. 

That stock isn't original to it though.  I think $400+ is a bit high for it honestly.  In the grand scheme of things 6015736 is really not much different than gun 7015736 except for a single digit on the receiver. :)

Good thing you dont collect rare variations!     rofl

Bert...  Did you buy it?   Just as I suspected, the serial is sub 20k for 1961.  Great stuff
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: escobert on July 28, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
I didn't, I'm broke as a joke with a new baby and finace on unpaid maternity leave. I was going to sell my 10 million to get it but he messaged me that he had a buyer with cash in hand. I've asked him who the buyer was so I can maybe work out a deal with that guy, or pass some info to one of you if interested.

I was wondering about the stock. the guy who had it really didn't know anything about SKSs and I had to walk him through even getting me the s/n -_-


I'm probably just gonna keep my eye out for a 9mil in the next few months. I like the idea of having a last year blade production and a first year spike production. that's about as "collector" as I'll ever be lol
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: running-man on July 28, 2015, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on July 28, 2015, 10:51:19 AM
Good thing you dont collect rare variations!     rofl

What's the variation in this case? A single number 6?  C'mon I'd love to have one if I was collecting one of each year, but to the avg. joe there is no difference between this 6 mil and an equal condition 7 mil.  To the avg. joe there should be no difference between the avg '54 Tula and '54 Izhevsk, but it's been pounded into *everyone's* head over the past 20 years that the Izheveks are rare, they are special, they are desirable, they are better! 

I think we all can understand and accept that the 6 mils (and the Izhevsks for that matter) had a lower production run than other years / factories but that's where my enthusiasm & cheerleading stops. clap1 

Everyone's got to decide what factors drive their collecting, and chasing rarity is certainly one of them.  I just choose to be more pragmatic about going after something, paying out a huge premium, and following the herd simply because XYZ gun is 'rare'.  Probably why all I own is trashy guns! (just ask Blicero!)  chuckles1
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 28, 2015, 11:18:06 AM
Laff....   Certain years in any country can fetch a premium and be very collectable.  With only 10 of these on the books (first year of characters in a very very low production year), its among the rarest years in the chinese saga.

Estimated 21k of these made that year......  How many Izzy??  Few million? 
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 28, 2015, 11:21:20 AM
Like...  Why pay more for a triangle on a cover?    rofl

The variation is....  Extremely low production year.  A 7 is not a 6, 7s are freakin everywhere.

Someone that does not care about a star vs a triangle or a very low production year vs a high production year likely isn't  concerned with collectability yet alone the rare factor.
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 28, 2015, 11:31:17 AM
Im guessing a 49 russo should not carry any premium or collectability...  I mean, its just a year!!
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Greasemonkey on July 28, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on July 28, 2015, 11:18:06 AM
Estimated 21k of these made that year......  How many Izzy??  Few million?

It's just 21k in a year ::), whoop dee doo  :P, Albania probably didn't even make 21,000 in 10years of production.

But, that /26\, that star and the holier than thou arrow are the shizzle my nizzle... rofl
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: CARBINE on July 28, 2015, 11:57:03 AM
So RM if a 6m and a 7m were at a gun show side by side, same condition all matching and same price you wouldn't care which one you bought?
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: running-man on July 28, 2015, 11:59:00 AM
I'm not ragging on anyone who chooses to collect them, I'm just tempering expectations a bit.  There were 20k+ of them produced.  How many made it to the US?  Yes we only have a few on our list, but I suspect there are bunch of them out there, people simply don't notice them among the millions of other Norinco other guns that are almost identical except for there being a 6 instead of a whatever on the receiver.  They fall through the cracks in ways that a EG or NK simply don't. 

A 49 Russian is a whole other beast with all sorts of different design features that make it unique...not just a gun with a 6 instead of a 7.  Same could be said for many of the Chinese like a side swiveled 3 mil /26\, a blade bayo'd 9 mil /29\, an inverted receiver cover latched 12 mil /26\. Yes I realize you could argue the 6's belong as they have the first 56 Type Characters, but meh a 6 mil vs a 7 mil just doesn't get a rise out of me for whatever reason (Izhevsks don't either for that matter).  Just my personal preference I guess.   thumb1
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: running-man on July 28, 2015, 12:05:49 PM
Quote from: CARBINE on July 28, 2015, 11:57:03 AM
So RM if a 6m and a 7m were at a gun show side by side, same condition all matching and same price you wouldn't care which one you bought?
That's a good question Tony.  Assuming equal condition and price, I would get the one I didn't have.  Seeing as I don't have either a 6 or 7, I'd likely take the 6 mil.  Rarity does mean something to me, it just doesn't rate as high on my scale as it does for other guys.

At the same gunshow table if there was a '54 Tula and a '54 Izhevsk in the same scenario, I would take an Izhevsk 100% of the time simply because I know the demand for the Izhevsk is going to be there should I have to move it - it's been pounded into everyone's head that the Izhevsks are the SKSs for collectors to get.  That djinni is out of the bottle, it's never going away.  I might as well maximize my profit by understanding it, even if I don't agree with it.  :)
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on July 28, 2015, 12:06:57 PM
Sure there is more out there....  There is more of everything 'out there'.    rofl

Good thing we have a good idea of production numbers compared to the year after and its not exactly raining 6ms
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: escobert on August 02, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
So I guess the cash never showed up. This gun is still available if any of you are interested in getting in contact with the seller I can try to facilitate that. I think I'm gonna pass, too many bills need to be taken care of right now and I don't want to make him wait a month or more for me to afford it. I don't think he's dead set on $400 that's just the going rate around here for any SKS.
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 02, 2015, 11:13:18 PM
Thanks Bert!...   Hopefully one of our guys picks this up!
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Power Surge on August 02, 2015, 11:16:08 PM
Quote from: escobert on August 02, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
So I guess the cash never showed up. This gun is still available if any of you are interested in getting in contact with the seller I can try to facilitate that. I think I'm gonna pass, too many bills need to be taken care of right now and I don't want to make him wait a month or more for me to afford it. I don't think he's dead set on $400 that's just the going rate around here for any SKS.

I'm interested...
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: escobert on August 03, 2015, 12:41:33 AM
Quote from: Power Surge on August 02, 2015, 11:16:08 PM
Quote from: escobert on August 02, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
So I guess the cash never showed up. This gun is still available if any of you are interested in getting in contact with the seller I can try to facilitate that. I think I'm gonna pass, too many bills need to be taken care of right now and I don't want to make him wait a month or more for me to afford it. I don't think he's dead set on $400 that's just the going rate around here for any SKS.

I'm interested...

:) Okay! I'll let him know. I'm guessing you have a facebook? If so I'll shoot you his info.
Title: Re: /26\ 6million
Post by: Power Surge on August 03, 2015, 12:48:00 AM
Quote from: escobert on August 03, 2015, 12:41:33 AM
Quote from: Power Surge on August 02, 2015, 11:16:08 PM
Quote from: escobert on August 02, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
So I guess the cash never showed up. This gun is still available if any of you are interested in getting in contact with the seller I can try to facilitate that. I think I'm gonna pass, too many bills need to be taken care of right now and I don't want to make him wait a month or more for me to afford it. I don't think he's dead set on $400 that's just the going rate around here for any SKS.

I'm interested...

:) Okay! I'll let him know. I'm guessing you have a facebook? If so I'll shoot you his info.

Yeah. ..I'll pm you.