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Title: Is this a known font?
Post by: padams8888 on October 16, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
Saw this one today....I'm sure it's known.....just havent seen it before.....
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z348/padams8888/Weird%20font_zpsy4tu3bne.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/padams8888/media/Weird%20font_zpsy4tu3bne.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: running-man on October 16, 2015, 05:37:38 PM
Heck man, that's a new one to me.  The threes look like a greek sigma to me (Σ) That 8 is pretty wild looking too.  What gun did you see this one on?  It's obviously Chinese with the short lug, but what other info is there about it?
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 06:12:00 PM
Bizaro

Nva?    Kidding!!   rofl2
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Power Surge on October 16, 2015, 06:41:28 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 06:12:00 PM
Bizaro

Nva?    Kidding!!   rofl2

Maybe that's the mysterious "M" that LG is calling everything...  rofl dance2 :P :))
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 06:45:04 PM
Ex nva chinese commercial dee dee argh matey. 
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Power Surge on October 16, 2015, 06:46:55 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 06:45:04 PM
Ex nva chinese commercial dee dee argh matey.

For Chinese pirates....of course. No way I would have known that, because i wasn't there when these guns were imported...  chuckles1
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 07:04:01 PM
Yup... All right thsr in another boards sticky from 2001. 

Also looks like quater fig Sahara Brazilian Walnut.    :o
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: padams8888 on October 16, 2015, 07:57:07 PM
 :)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z348/padams8888/150.3_zpsvjfvkwj9.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/padams8888/media/150.3_zpsvjfvkwj9.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z348/padams8888/150.5_zpsj2qoxfh3.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/padams8888/media/150.5_zpsj2qoxfh3.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z348/padams8888/150.4_zps69wc85mv.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/padams8888/media/150.4_zps69wc85mv.jpg.html)
No.....It's not mine....just watching it
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
1979 gun...  Pretty late.  Wonder if thats very late evolution in rear sights.   dntknw1
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: padams8888 on October 16, 2015, 08:34:44 PM
79 is what I figured as well from the rolling evolution in dating that you all are working on......
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: running-man on October 16, 2015, 09:19:07 PM
What does everyone think about the bottom right '6' in this arsenal stamp?  Here's another example I have:

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/survey/triangle/T6636_P.jpg)

Think that missing portion is intended, or is it a broken stamp?
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Power Surge on October 16, 2015, 09:29:26 PM
Quote from: running-man on October 16, 2015, 09:19:07 PM
What does everyone think about the bottom right '6' in this arsenal stamp?  Here's another example I have:

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/survey/triangle/T6636_P.jpg)

Think that missing portion is intended, or is it a broken stamp?

Hard to say, but it looks pretty intentional to me. The slot is the same size and the others.
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 09:40:27 PM
How many made year to year at that arsenal RM?    I doubt many.... Broken stamp could be used on darn near all of them.
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Power Surge on October 16, 2015, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 09:40:27 PM
How many made year to year at that arsenal RM?    I doubt many.... Broken stamp could be used on darn near all of them.

Ah...but if a broken stamp was used for all them...then the missing part is correct ;)
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 09:45:13 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 09:40:27 PM
How many made year to year at that arsenal RM?    I doubt many.... Broken stamp could be used on darn near all of them.
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: running-man on October 16, 2015, 09:45:47 PM
This is the highest S/N I've seen from this arsenal. 21 mil in the 700's exists as do two other 24 mils in the 3000's

I'll see if I can get arsenal stamps of all three examples.
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: running-man on October 16, 2015, 11:16:55 PM
Well that was despressing.  Here's the only two that I've got:

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T7_6636/21000709_receiver.jpg~original)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T7_6636/24002867_receiver.jpg~original)

Can't make any kind of conclusion with these two horsetrashy photos  cry1
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 16, 2015, 11:25:00 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Dannyboy53 on October 17, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
Aftermarket site leaf maybe??!!
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: firstchoice on October 17, 2015, 09:11:30 PM
 So, is that considered a /6635\?  What's the consensus on number sequence on these triangle arsenal numbers?

firstchoice
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 17, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
There is really no possible way to tell what order etc the numbers are to be read... Take a look in the stickys, we have it listed as ?7 and an explanation why. 

Arsenal Stamps in Chinese SKS (Military) - Page 1 of 1 (https://clone.sks-files.com/chinese-sks-military/17/arsenal-stamps/43/)
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: firstchoice on October 17, 2015, 09:51:10 PM
  Ah, good call. Are there actual pictured examples of the /?7\, both with and without the broken line on the bottom of the triangle? In the Survey stats collected so far, was this particular /\ arsenal imported by a single or multiple American importer/s?

  BTW, congrats on the updated and vastly improved Arsenal Stamp Sticky!

firstchoice
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 17, 2015, 09:59:38 PM
I dont think we have but a few pics...  May have to change the arsenal drawing..  Dunno, but I hate doing that if its simply a broken chunk.
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: running-man on October 18, 2015, 12:34:22 AM
Quote from: firstchoice on October 17, 2015, 09:51:10 PM
  Ah, good call. Are there actual pictured examples of the /?7\, both with and without the broken line on the bottom of the triangle? In the Survey stats collected so far, was this particular /\ arsenal imported by a single or multiple American importer/s?

  BTW, congrats on the updated and vastly improved Arsenal Stamp Sticky!

firstchoice

We've got zero entries into the survey of ?7 guns, that was one of the reasons my search for arsenal stamps was so depressing.  My pathetic compilation of 2 examples have come from GunBroker auctions.  The third known example with S/N 2400333x is the one that padams8888 just posted.   Pretty small sample size to try and draw any conclusions from unfortunately.

The one 2400286x gun I show above is a CAI St Alb VT import stamped on the left side of the receiver if that helps though. 

I personally think this is an example of a broken stamp...the other ?6, ?8, and ?9s differ by the missing chunk and the central number.  I would assume they were intended to be identical save the center number.

Take these ?6 examples only 73 guns apart:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T6_6626/21000332_receiver.jpg~original)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T6_6626/21000405_receiver_rotated_zero.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on October 18, 2015, 09:45:21 AM
Tnats exactly what I'm talkin about!   Nice example RM!

QuoteI would assume they were intended to be identical save the center number.

Yup...   These little chunks DO break off and even occur on /26\ guns. 
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: AK47MAN on November 05, 2015, 08:44:05 AM
Maybe CAI (Century Arms International) did this before they shipped it to a supplier. I seen the CAI stamped on the pictures above. And the battle zero on the rear sight looks really strange....
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: running-man on November 05, 2015, 09:18:11 AM
CAI did what to the gun?  I'm not following you.
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: AK47MAN on November 05, 2015, 05:40:02 PM
The rear sight markings are not like they should be...From what I seen...
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Greasemonkey on November 05, 2015, 06:05:39 PM
Very unlikely Century did it, they have enough problems doing import stamps, much less stamping a tiny rear sight blade.
Title: Re: Is this a known font?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on November 05, 2015, 06:07:24 PM
Yeah...  These numbers are not just painted. They are stamped and then paint filled.