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Title: 223 sks
Post by: CARBINE on April 19, 2016, 10:04:47 AM
Has anyone ever heard of these was reading another forum and ran across this topic, said it was a prototype that came out right before the import ban.
http://www.tirito.com.ar/Venta/ArmasLargas/html/SKS_139.htm
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 19, 2016, 10:26:41 AM
I have...

From what I understand, there has been claims that a few did make it to the US.  I have seen one or two in 223 but iirc, they were done by individuals at later date here in the US.

Would be very interested in adding it to the guide if one is ever found in the US. 
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: firstchoice on April 20, 2016, 05:58:28 PM
I had seen pics and elusive references to the .223 SKS, but never saw one in person. This pic is definitely interesting.

(http://www.tirito.com.ar/Venta/ArmasLargas/Fotos/SKS223_139_2.jpg)

Link to enlarged pic: http://www.tirito.com.ar/Venta/ArmasLargas/Fotos/SKS223_139_2.jpg (http://www.tirito.com.ar/Venta/ArmasLargas/Fotos/SKS223_139_2.jpg)

I wish one of the pics would have shown the importer.

firstchoice
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: XXXSKS on April 21, 2016, 04:47:51 AM
Delta Investment Group

I have a copy of the ad from Shotgun News.


8)..............Joe
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 21, 2016, 08:03:29 AM
Are you saying they were imported, or modified here by a company?   Where's the add?  bat1
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: XXXSKS on April 21, 2016, 10:48:40 PM
Imported

patience grasshopper  ;)


8)...................Joe
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: XXXSKS on June 08, 2016, 07:20:57 AM
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp320/javlin34x/WebsiteChineseSKS/Shot%20Gun%20News/DIG1987JULY10_zpsfsbiqtig.jpg)

This is the ad from Shotgun News that started the rumor of a .223 SKS. It was in the July 10 1987 issue a full 6 months before the first detachable mag SKS rifles entered the USA. This is a teaser ad or a look what's coming ad (place your order now). These were used a lot in Shotgun News. What this ad does not tell us is how many IF ANY made it here.

Personally I don't think any made it here. There would be somebody somewhere standing on a soap box shouting look what I got.

:P..............................Joe
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on June 08, 2016, 07:59:53 AM
Hmm...  "Manufactured By Norinco Of China".    rofl

I think your right Joe... We would have seen a US owner showing one off by now.
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: running-man on June 08, 2016, 08:40:13 AM
Very nice Joe! This is also the last nail in the coffin for that "DIG = Dominion Import Group" theory that is so prevalent about the web.  As much as it pains me to say so, GM was right from the very start!! :o :P  chuckles1
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Greasemonkey on June 08, 2016, 11:59:56 AM
Delta Investment Group...  banana time banana time banana time rockon

Manufactured by Norinco of China  banana time banana time banana time rockon

QuoteAs much as it pains me to say so, GM was right from the very start!!

:o RM said GM was...right.....whoa.

(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/none/michaeljfox_zpsbhvcjfyj.gif) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/none/michaeljfox_zpsbhvcjfyj.gif.html)
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: XXXSKS on June 08, 2016, 12:29:51 PM
Yes Greasemonkey was right.  :o

During 1988 DIG was the biggest advertiser of the Detachable 20" SKS (more ads to follow soon). This ad was the first and last mention of a .223 SKS.

8).....................Joe
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Greasemonkey on June 08, 2016, 12:50:48 PM
Delta Investment Group.... can you D.I.G. it  rofl2 rofl2

So the ad pretty much pre-dates all removable mag models, with the exception of the Type 84, interesting.

And they didn't modify existing rifles, they were new built.
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: alfred on June 08, 2016, 01:05:25 PM


With your permission would it be ok if I take that picture you posted from shotgun news and post it on the sks boards ?
I like the fact that it says (MADE BY NORINCO) on it   
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on June 08, 2016, 01:09:32 PM
All free information Alfred.   thumb1.   Im sure an sksfiles battlefield commission recipient wont care.  Lol
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: alfred on June 08, 2016, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on June 08, 2016, 01:09:32 PM
All free information Alfred.   thumb1.   Im sure an sksfiles battlefield commission recipient wont care.  Lol

I may haft to put in for a freaken Purple Heart after this one !  fart1
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Greasemonkey on June 08, 2016, 01:20:03 PM
Quote from: alfred on June 08, 2016, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on June 08, 2016, 01:09:32 PM
All free information Alfred.   thumb1.   Im sure an sksfiles battlefield commission recipient wont care.  Lol

I may haft to put in for a freaken Purple Heart after this one !  fart1

oh boy.... ???  just remember, relax and breath out, the pain hurts a lot less  thumb1  rofl2
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: XXXSKS on June 08, 2016, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: alfred on June 08, 2016, 01:05:25 PM


With your permission would it be ok if I take that picture you posted from shotgun news and post it on the sks boards ?
I like the fact that it says (MADE BY NORINCO) on it   

The second I posted that scan it became public information. You can post it anywhere you want.

8).................Joe
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: CARBINE on June 08, 2016, 01:29:17 PM
Quote from: alfred on June 08, 2016, 01:05:25 PM


With your permission would it be ok if I take that picture you posted from shotgun news and post it on the sks boards ?
I like the fact that it says (MADE BY NORINCO) on it   

This outta be interesting!! :)
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: CARBINE on June 08, 2016, 01:30:05 PM
Thanks for posting this Joe nice find!!
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on June 08, 2016, 01:33:59 PM
It says..    :).   'MANUFACTURED' By Norinco.    :P
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: running-man on June 08, 2016, 01:37:26 PM
Hey Joe, if in your perusals of old shotgun news ads you come across *anything* from C&A out of Virginia or CJA out of Michigan, make sure to let us know!!  GM would plant a wet sloppy kiss on anybody for more info on those two!  thumb1
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Greasemonkey on June 08, 2016, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: running-man on June 08, 2016, 01:37:26 PM
Hey Joe, if in your perusals of old shotgun news ads you come across *anything* from C&A out of Virginia or CJA out of Michigan, make sure to let us know!!  GM would plant a wet sloppy kiss on anybody for more info on those two!  thumb1

Yeah..yeah.. big sloppy wet kiss, not a little dinky :P but a full on drool2 explode1    I've had all my shots, so no worries there.   thumb1
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: XXXSKS on June 08, 2016, 01:47:52 PM
Quote from: Greasemonkey on June 08, 2016, 12:50:48 PM
Delta Investment Group.... can you D.I.G. it  rofl2 rofl2

So the ad pretty much pre-dates all removable mag models, with the exception of the Type 84, interesting.

And they didn't modify existing rifles, they were new built.

Get ready to relearn everything we assumed about the Type 84. Original NA ads coming soon.

;)...................Joe

Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on June 08, 2016, 01:50:16 PM
Wait wait... Is that one of them thar M or D thingys?    rofl2
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: John Galt on June 08, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
So....I have a noob question....

Would this be an "M" or "D"?   rofl
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: XXXSKS on June 24, 2016, 06:42:24 PM
Go to Yooperj site and scroll on down and there it is.

http://www.yooperj.com/SKS-23.htm (http://www.yooperj.com/SKS-23.htm)

The serial number starts with 87 and has a shorter barrel (same as the posted D.I.G ad) only this one was imported through Century.  Hum...Century and D.I.G were neighbors. This rifle also has the dual mag release. At least 4 were made.

:).................................Joe
Title: Re: 223 sks
Post by: alfred on June 24, 2016, 08:01:16 PM

      think1