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Title: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: running-man on April 30, 2016, 12:45:16 AM
Ok, here's one I found that has some kind of issue.  Tell me what the main issue is and win bragging rights.  thumb1

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Russian/1958_Tula/P6627_K_receiver_cover_restamp.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Russian/1958_Tula/P6627_K_receiver_cover_top_mismatch.jpg)
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 30, 2016, 12:51:48 AM
Scrubbed and reserialized... Wrong font, no postfix, likely now living on a tula.
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 30, 2016, 10:37:40 AM
Who won?    rofl
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Direct Connection on April 30, 2016, 05:15:06 PM
Geez LC,either he's torchering you or that aint the answer hes looking for  :) Thats cold blooded if you ask me   chuckles1

I havent the faintest idea what could be wrong other then the letters on the back of the cover look engraved kinda
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Phosphorus32 on April 30, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
Isn't that one of those unusual Chinese double letter gun early trials SKS covers. They got the N backwards and I don't recognize the triangle arsenal  ???  rofl
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 30, 2016, 07:54:14 PM
I know what this is....   One of them thar 'Russian Gary' guns.
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on May 03, 2016, 11:37:01 AM
Damit man...  I want resolution.   cry1
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on June 14, 2016, 08:24:04 PM
Who won?   :)
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 14, 2016, 09:00:55 PM
 bat1
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 04, 2017, 05:24:35 PM
Sooo....   Who wins?   
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: running-man on March 04, 2017, 09:13:04 PM
Nobody yet :). You're the closest but how can you tell it's been scrubbed and restamped.  :P
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 04, 2017, 09:40:40 PM
Because an Izzy prefix and serial should both be on the same line!!!
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Justin Hell on March 04, 2017, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on March 04, 2017, 09:40:40 PM
Because an Izzy prefix and serial should both be on the same line!!!

piss, I was just about to say that.
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Boris Badinov on March 05, 2017, 03:30:44 AM
Oooh, fun. I second LC's observations.

Adding only that the Cyrillics look like they have shadows of the previous serial / possible indication of overstrikes. And the left and right side of the cover corners are not symetrical: the right side arc tapers inward where it rests on the receiver whereas the left side is vertical.
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: running-man on March 05, 2017, 11:37:31 AM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on March 04, 2017, 09:40:40 PM
Because an Izzy prefix and serial should both be on the same line!!!
Ding ding. Give that man a stuffed toy!  senil1

Quote from: Boris Badinov on March 05, 2017, 03:30:44 AM
Oooh, fun. I second LC's observations.

Adding only that the Cyrillics look like they have shadows of the previous serial / possible indication of overstrikes. And the left and right side of the cover corners are not symetrical: the right side arc tapers inward where it rests on the receiver whereas the left side is vertical.

The two line vs single line stamping is the only objective hard evidence on this cover. Everything else is a subjective observation subject to interpretation (good observations and all likely true, but still subject to opinion).  If there was a readable digit from the former scrubbed S/N still present, that would be a good objective data point as well.  thumb1
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 05, 2017, 08:54:33 PM
In that format... Its a tula serial = scrubbed
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: running-man on March 05, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
Right.  thumb1  But now look at this one, S/N PB83:

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Russian/1953_Izhevsk/PB83_receiver.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Russian/1953_Izhevsk/PB83_receiver_cover_top.jpg)

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Russian/1953_Izhevsk/PB83_receiver_cover_replacement.jpg)

The receiver of this gun shows it's clearly an Izhevsk (though not necessarily a '53).  The gun is a black BBQ refurb.  The receiver cover is a '53 Izhevsk, with a two line stamping and in addition to this the font on the B, the 8, and the 3 are all noticeably different. 

So there you go, an actual Izhevsk with a Tula style S/N on the cover.  I suspect all the refurb S/N re-stampings were two line in the Tula style though.  thumb1
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 05, 2017, 11:46:57 PM
I would call that a scrubbed cover also simply because of that two line style.
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: newchi on March 08, 2017, 09:11:43 PM
If i understand correctly;
to remove the old number you grind it down and remove the depth of the stamping.

Has anyone put calipers on the end of the receiver cover to get a thickness measurement on original and scrubbed to see if there's a noticeable difference?
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on March 08, 2017, 09:30:15 PM
The old numbers/letters would likely be filled first.
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Boris Badinov on March 09, 2017, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on March 08, 2017, 09:30:15 PM
The old numbers/letters would likely be filled first.

With ....KGB Weld? thankyou1
Title: Re: Receiver cover mini-quiz!
Post by: Direct Connection on March 14, 2017, 01:12:53 AM
Quote from: Boris Badinov on March 09, 2017, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on March 08, 2017, 09:30:15 PM
The old numbers/letters would likely be filled first.

With ....KGB Weld? thankyou1

Finally you have busted me up ! That was funny !