Back down to normal with 95 Chinese changing hands this month.
Lowest Sale Price: $205.00
Avg. Sale Price: $369.38
Highest Sale Price: $961.00
As-Issued Avg. Sale Price: $462.95
Please let me know any feedback (good or bad) to these.
If you have an objection or observation to add to anything I've listed, by all means call it out. Let's look at it long and hard (I only look at each listing for a minute or two at most) and maybe everyone can learn a thing or two! thumb1
-RM
Item Link Description # Bids Final Price Chinese Factory Arsenal Condtion Current Condition RM's Notes
575679866 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575679866) Vietnam War Chinese Type 56 SKS - NO IMPORT MARK 19 $961.00 /26\ As-Issued Fair Interesting story, but w/o the papers it's just another story. This gun is at least $300 overpriced IMO.
574155212 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574155212) NORINCO CHINESE SKS TYPE M21 7.62MM AUTO NIB NR 21 $610.00 Blank (late build) As-Issued Very Good Price sure seems high....
573851141 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=573851141) Norinco China Poly SKS Rifle 7.62X39 7.62 Matching 37 $565.00 /0408\ As-Issued Very Good Excellent stock!
574052415 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574052415) Norinco SKS 7.62x39 pre-ban 20" w/ Box Poly China 20 $505.00 [0147] As-Issued Very Good Excellent specimen!
576332648 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576332648) SKS Type 56 C&R-OK 3 $495.00 /26\ As-Issued Good Very nice specimen!
576788919 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576788919) Chinese SKS, Blade Bayonet...All Matching Numbers 13 $495.00 /26\ As-Issued Very Good
572992622 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=572992622) Unissued Chinese SKS Carbine, No Reserve, Penny Matching #s, Keng's Import, Orig Sling, Norinco 12 $475.00 [0141] As-Issued Good Beauty!
578243339 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578243339) Chinese Norinco SKS Rifle all matching 1 $465.00 /26\ As-Issued Good
578717461 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578717461) Norinco China Sports SKS 7.62X39 1 $450.00 [0136] As-Issued Very Good
577822386 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577822386) Chinese SKS Rifle all matching 1 $425.00 Blank (late build) As-Issued Good
577514134 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577514134) Chinese Norinco Polytech SKS 7.62x39 Arsenal 26 23 $421.00 /26\ As-Issued Good Very nice!
578219704 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578219704) NIB Norinco type 56 unissued SKS Sporter 1 $399.99 DP As-Issued Very Good Really nice setup here.
575809599 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575809599) Nice Unfired? Matching Chinese Type 56 SKS Carbine 2 $399.00 [0141] As-Issued Good Very nice PS gun here.
573614158 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=573614158) CHINESE CHICOM SKS SEMI AUTO 7.62X39 RIFLE TYPE 56 MATCHING NO IMPORT MARKS C&R 21 $380.00 /26\ As-Issued Fair Decent enough gun. May well be a legit bringback.
576685177 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576685177) Norinco SKS Arsenal 46 Early Import 1 $379.00 /416\ As-Issued Good Nice PS gun.
576472730 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576472730) NORINCO SKS RIFLE WITH ACCESORIES 1 $375.00 [0138] As-Issued Good Nice clean gun here.
578041627 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578041627) Norinco China Poly SKS Rifle 7.62X39 7.62 Matching 19 $367.00 /?\ As-Issued Good Nice gun.
575889218 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575889218) Chinese Norinco SKS Rifle 7.62X39 matching NICE 36 $360.00 /636\ As-Issued Good
574860928 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574860928) Norinco SKS 7.62x39 Semi-automatic Rifle 1 $269.00 /416\ As-Issued Fair
575458066 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575458066) Chinese SKS w/ Plastic Stock & Blade Bayonet New 1 $650.00 /636\ Bubba Good
574773570 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574773570) SKS Bullpup-SG Works Stock 1 $599.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain Not only horsetrash, but 4 identical photos horsetrash!
574775640 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574775640) Chinese SKS NIB Condition! 2 $549.00 Blank (late build) Bubba Good
575217236 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575217236) I O Inc Chinese SKS Semi Auto in 7.62X39mm 1 $525.00 Ghost Bubba Fair Amazing price for a dressed up Sino-Banian.
574822166 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574822166) BEAUTIFUL Norinco SKS rifle 7.62 all matching 7 $406.99 /0404\ Bubba Good Nice unusual arsenal stamp on this one. Not a great auction though.
573646557 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=573646557) Chinese SKS 7.62x39 w/ Milled Receiver All Matching Numbers 15 $405.00 Blank (late build) Bubba Good Love the red stock on this one.
574327113 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574327113) CHINESE SKS 7.62X39 FOLDING STOCK 4 $400.00 Uncertain Bubba Fair
572589012 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=572589012) Norinco SKS Rifle 7.62x39mm 20" Chinese CSI 19 $385.00 /906\ Bubba Good Really starting to not be a fan of Red's auctions...
575760678 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575760678) Norinco SKS 7.62x39mm Semi Auto Rifle 29 $375.00 Uncertain Bubba Poor Not good. No idea why the two bidders are lining up to bid on it. Ridiculous.
580097844 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=580097844) Norinco SKS 7.62x39 BLK Used 4 $375.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain One photo??! C'mon man!
575079862 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575079862) Norinco SKS Un-Shot Look or Not I Dont Care. Do It 10 $370.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain Horsetrash listing. "Adding the black monte carlo stock essentially made this thing a sniper rifle…" Yeah, whatever floats your boat Cochise… I hope this seller doesn't turn up as a member of this site anytime in the near future. I'd have issues with a guy like that...
575692873 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575692873) Norinco SKS Poly Stock 1 $369.00 /26\ Bubba Fair
579756617 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579756617) Norinco China SKS Rifle 7.62X39 7.62 B West NR Gun 21 $369.00 /0223b\ Bubba Good I like this one all except for the stock refinish.
575191958 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575191958) Norinco Type 56 SKS 7.62x39mm synthetic stock NICE 21 $361.00 /26\ Bubba Uncertain Horsetrash!
576239398 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576239398) Norinco SKS 7.62x39 collapsible 30 round 1 $360.00 /?\ Bubba Uncertain
576682865 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576682865) Norinco SKS Scoped With Extras Arsenal 636 7 $360.00 /636\ Bubba Good
578748577 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578748577) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM 26 $360.00 /26\ Bubba Fair
579323379 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579323379) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM 17 $356.00 /26\ Bubba Fair
578749462 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578749462) Norinco China Poly SKS Rifle 7.62X39 7.62 Dragonov 33 $355.00 /0408\ Bubba Good
579766263 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579766263) NORINCO TYPE 56 CARBINE SKS BAKELITE STOCK 4 $355.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain Horsetrash!
578261852 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578261852) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM 19 $351.00 /26\ Bubba Fair Man some of these are butt fuuuugly!
573899445 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=573899445) NORINCO SKS 7.62X39 RIFLE 2 $350.00 /?\ Bubba Uncertain
577001713 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577001713) Norinco SKS, 7.62/39 Caliber, NC Star and Sling 1 $350.00 /?\ Bubba Fair
578333650 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578333650) Norinco SKS Poly 7.62x39 Free shipping no cc fee 1 $350.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain
579248724 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579248724) (#893-16) NORINCO MODEL SKS 7-62-X39 1 $350.00 (9696) Bubba Good Nice enough looking bubba with a scope mount receiver cover.
579535849 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579535849) Chinese SKS w B-Square scope mount 1 $350.00 /?\ Bubba Good
574074231 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574074231) Norinco SKS rifle 15 $340.00 /26\ Bubba Fair Some kind of letter gun here.
577947242 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577947242) Norinco SKS Chinese 7.62x39 scope 1 $339.00 [0140] Bubba Fair
573762517 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=573762517) Norinco SKS Chinese 7.62x39 WOW 1 $329.95 /256\ Bubba Fair Bubba as well as a mixmaster. Ugh.
573732340 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=573732340) Norinco SKS Matching Numbers 7.62x39 1 $325.00 /636\ Bubba Good Bayo lug grinding on this one. Likely a post '92 imported gun.
579466982 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579466982) Norinco SKS 7.62X39 Bayonet Nice Condition CSI 3 $321.00 Uncertain Bubba Good
573732276 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=573732276) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM 17 $320.00 /26\ Bubba Fair
575756389 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575756389) Norinco SKS 7.62X39 20" Brl 10 rd 15 $317.00 /416\ Bubba Good
575328162 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575328162) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM (FOLDING STOCK) 17 $315.00 /0223b\ Bubba Fair
577085924 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577085924) Norinco SKS 7.63x39 Semi-Automatic 6 $311.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain 10 photos of HORSETRASH!
578933199 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578933199) Chinese/IAC SKS 7.62x39 NO RESERVE 13 $311.00 Uncertain Bubba Good
578577456 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578577456) Chinese/Norinco Type 56 SKS 3 $310.00 /316\ Bubba Good
577047950 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577047950) Norinco Chinese SKS 7.62x39mm 16 $306.56 Uncertain Bubba Good
577430240 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577430240) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM 19 $302.22 Uncertain Bubba Fair
574987152 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574987152) Norinco SKS Semi-auto Rifle in 7.62x39mm 1 $300.00 Blank (late build) Bubba Fair
578724713 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578724713) Norinco SKS 7.62 X 39 Semi-Auto Rifle With Scope 1 $299.95 Uncertain Bubba Good Horsetrash!
577317021 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577317021) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM (READ) 17 $291.89 [0138] Bubba Poor
575754356 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575754356) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM 22 $290.92 /26\ Bubba Fair
576976516 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576976516) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM (READ) 19 $290.00 [0134] Bubba Poor Man, WTF happened to the bottom of that stock!? Looks like it was left sitting in the bough of a tree in the Nevada desert for 20 years!!! I'd like to have this one just for the gnarly factor!
577495418 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577495418) Norinco SKS 7.62X39 With Bayonet 17 $290.00 /26\ Bubba Fair
577958310 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577958310) Norinco SKS Spiker 7.62x39 Matching Except for Mag 3 $285.00 /26\ Bubba Fair
576363604 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576363604) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM (READ) 19 $277.56 Blank (late build) Bubba Poor Miniature B-West import stamp on this one.
578318620 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578318620) NORINCO - SKS - CAL. 7.62X39 6 $277.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain Horsetrash!
578053693 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578053693) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM 13 $275.00 Uncertain Bubba Fair
577821700 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577821700) Chinese SKS folding stock, used GC, 7.62x39 2 $255.00 Blank (late build) Bubba Fair
578579128 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578579128) Chinese/Norinco Type 56 SKS 1 $250.00 /256\ Bubba Fair
578581033 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578581033) Chinese/Norinco Type 56 SKS 1 $250.00 [?] Bubba Fair
578294251 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578294251) SKS 7.62 x 39 chinese carbine with scope 15 $245.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain
578523537 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578523537) NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM (READ) 18 $205.00 /?\ Bubba Fair Not a fan of the yugo bolt carrier.
578590509 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578590509) Chinese Norinco SKS 7.62x39 All Matching # Nice 1 $369.00 /636\ Refurbished Good
575019388 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575019388) Very Nice Chinese Norinco SKS 7.62x39 6 $361.00 /26\ Refurbished Good
575310560 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575310560) SKS Sino-Soviet (Jiansche Arsenal 26) 11 $350.00 /26\ Refurbished Good
575526039 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575526039) Norinco SKS 7.62X39 20" Brl 10 rd 26 $320.00 /?5\ Refurbished Fair Not a great looker by any stretch of the imagination, but still a /?5\ gun.
574036134 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574036134) Chinese SKS Rifle, Military Issue, Good Shape 3 $309.95 /26\ Refurbished Fair J&G Sino-Banian.
574179068 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574179068) Norinco SKS 762x39 1 $299.99 /636\ Refurbished Good
573945307 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=573945307) Chinese Type 56 SKS 1 $299.00 Ghost Refurbished Fair Neat mismatched '51 Tula receiver cover on this one. Nice piece of history here.
577702331 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577702331) Norinco SKS 7.62x39 1 $285.00 /26\ Refurbished Fair Odd right crossbolt nut on this one…
574890896 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574890896) Norinco SKS 7.62x39 1 $249.95 /26\ Refurbished Good Too bad this one is missing the bayo.
578731254 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578731254) Norinco SKS Factory 636 7.62x39 Chinese NEW IN BOX 16 $460.00 /?\ Uncertain Good
576655406 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576655406) Chinese SKS in Excellent Condition 7 $455.00 Uncertain Uncertain Good Very clear PS lettering on the right side receiver on this one…
574217283 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=574217283) norinco china sks PTK 26 matching #'s 1 $425.00 /26\ Uncertain Good
579472119 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579472119) Norinco SKS Factory 26 Early gun Spike bayonet 1 $425.00 /26\ Uncertain Good
577103161 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577103161) Norinco Type 56 SKS 4 $400.00 /26\ Uncertain Uncertain Horsetrash!
579066810 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579066810) Norinco Chinese SKS Great Condition 1 $399.99 /26\ Uncertain Good Does this banana mag make me look fat?!
572957955 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=572957955) Norinco SKS Rifle 7.62x39mm 20" Chinese CSI 15 $355.00 /206\ Uncertain Uncertain With so few /206\ specimens out there, this one would have been a good data point. To bad the seller is Red's...
576271520 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=576271520) Used GC Chinese SKS all Matching numbers 7.62x39 9 $350.00 /?\ Uncertain Uncertain Horsetrash!
577525049 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=577525049) SKS BY Norinco 4 $325.00 Uncertain Uncertain Uncertain Not a great listing.
579399611 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=579399611) Norinco SKS Factory 0136 7.62x39 Chinese 4 $325.00 [0136] Uncertain Good
575871681 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575871681) Norinco China SKS 9 $320.00 Uncertain Uncertain Uncertain I guess two photos is better than one…
578575857 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=578575857) Chinese/Norinco Type 56 SKS 2 $305.00 /?\ Uncertain Good
575886268 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=575886268) Norinco SKS 7.62x39 5 $290.00 Uncertain Uncertain Good Nice gun, terrible listing.
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Holy cow :o Is this "SKSs gone wild" month?
574155212 NORINCO CHINESE SKS TYPE M21 7.62MM AUTO NIB NR 21 $610.00 Blank (late build) As-Issued Very Good Price sure seems high
Seemed extraordinarily high until I worked my way down the list...
578219704 NIB Norinco type 56 unissued SKS Sporter 1 $399.99 DP As-Issued Very Good Really nice setup here.
Now this I could see paying $400 for...
575809599 Nice Unfired? Matching Chinese Type 56 SKS Carbine 2 $399.00 [0141] As-Issued Good Very nice PS gun here.
...and this one...
574775640 Chinese SKS NIB Condition! 2 $549.00 Blank (late build) Bubba Good
...but $549 :o
575217236 I O Inc Chinese SKS Semi Auto in 7.62X39mm 1 $525.00 Ghost Bubba Fair Amazing price for a dressed up Sino-Banian.
...and Oh, My, Gosh, Seriously, $525?! :o
575679866 Vietnam War Chinese Type 56 SKS - NO IMPORT MARK 19 $961.00 /26\ As-Issued Fair Interesting story, but w/o the papers it's just another story. This gun is at least $300 overpriced IMO.
Who needs a story or paper when there is no import mark? Still looking for proof that ANYONE ever received an sks nib from an importer with no stamp.
Better yet... Why is it ALWAYS a correct year /26\ gun that has no mark?
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on September 11, 2016, 06:11:41 PM
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Who needs a story or paper when there is no import mark? Still looking for proof that ANYONE ever received an sks nib from an importer with no stamp.
Isn't that statement a little contradictory to what you've said in the past? I asked this a while back and your response was "canadian border jumpers". :-\
No... They are surely out there and a possibility, but I doubt in any numbers to justify all the jungle rot carbines we see on broker every month. See my Board challenge thread.
QuoteStill looking for proof that ANYONE ever received an sks nib from an importer with no stamp.
578261852 NORINCO SKS 7.62x39MM 19 $351.00 /26\ Bubba Fair Man some of these are butt fuuuugly!
Less than 2k newer than my 10m (I didn't let mine see the pics) Same importer....same P after the serial.
Still wondering who P'd on my serial... chuckles1
But, at least there is a little consistency with the same letter being used by the same importer in a fairly tight range of serials.
This might suggest that it was done by the importer, but this P is below the stock line enough to make me think it happened before it was assembled. They wouldn't go to the trouble of full disassembly stateside would they? Mine is currently dressed for a night on the town, but the P is in line with the serial enough to think that it would be above the stock line when she is in her Sunday best.
More fuel for the letter debacle. :)
Suggest more of an EXporter involvement then anything.
Norinco SKS 7.62x39 pre-ban 20" w/ Box Poly China 20 $505.00 [0147] As-Issued Very Good Excellent specimen!
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/574052415 (http://www.gunbroker.com/item/574052415)
It's an excellent specimen. I was surprised at the quality of the [0147] arsenal's finish on the rifle, though. Looks to have been blued using a cheese grater. Is that a norm for the [0147] rifles?
Another point on that rifle, original owner never bothered to clean ANY cosmo out before firing the crap out of it. I wonder if he tried that in a cold climate? Brrrrrt. Brrrrrt. chuckles1
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Unissued Chinese SKS Carbine, No Reserve, Penny Matching #s, Keng's Import, Orig Sling, Norinco 12 $475.00 [0141] As-Issued Good Beauty!
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/572992622 (http://www.gunbroker.com/item/572992622)
Another nice [0141] PS gun, under the wire. RM, do you have any numbers on the PS guns through the survey or otherwise? (quantities imported through each importer?)
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firstchoice
Unfortunately, I haven't been tracking the PSs in the GB threads. I know there are several per month, but I don't track them actively. I guess I could add a PS category and track the gun via that instead of putting it in the /26\, /416\, [0140], [0141], [0144] columns....
The other alternative is to move them over to the commercial Gb listing...though I don't think they quite fit in there...
I have been tracking the PS guns in the NON-/26\ Serial/Arsenal Data Collection Thread (https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=393.0) though. They all have (PS gun) after the S/N.
Wasn't KFS the only importer of the PS rifles or is this just internet gossip?
Quote from: montigre on September 12, 2016, 09:24:37 PM
Wasn't KFS the only importer of the PS rifles or is this just internet gossip?
All the examples I've ever seen in the US have indeed been Keng's imports.
Same here...
GM may have given some insight here that you may find interesting, and I have the arsenals found etc .. http://chinesesks.weebly.com/public-security.html
Quote from: running-man on September 12, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: montigre on September 12, 2016, 09:24:37 PM
Wasn't KFS the only importer of the PS rifles or is this just internet gossip?
All the examples I've ever seen in the US have indeed been Keng's imports.
It would be interesting to get a number from KFS as to how many PS rifles were imported. I see a lot of them for sale online, so I'd be surprised if it was a small import number.
I've been watching the PS rifles for a few years now, As collectors we have come to recognize PS rifles and their traits and arsenals, and of course the tell-tell right side stamps.
Well....3/4 + of PS rifles sold, the seller doesn't even know its as PS ( or SF) when listing. WE notice, but most do not. While the number was high this month...it can be months before another is sold.
They are uncommon for sure, like I said we notice them because they have traits that stand out among the million + other SKSs out there. Now...1 importer + 1 style import stamp. Compare that to all the other importers and multiple style import stamps. Uncommon....but yet obtainable to the common man. With the /416\ 18 mill range, I've observed less than 5k in s/n range.
Out of 95 this month we saw 4 or 5? Believe me when I tell you that was alot for 1 month. I've read 800-2000 made it in country. While I can't back that up, It doesn't seem far fetched either.
Take an arsenal /56\ for example, not common place but once you start looking for them...you will find them. I say grab a PS/SF SKS while you can cuz mark my words....1 day you'll wish you did.
I counted the PS guns on the non-/26\ serial number list.
[0140]=0? (I know LC said there is record of one, it's just not on the list)
[0141]=7 total on list (all within sn 24,000,08X to 24,000,363X)
[0144]=4 total on list (all within sn 2,400,46X to 2,401,92X)
/416\=18 total on list (12 between sn 1,706,75X to 1,730,43x)
(6 between sn 18,030,04X to 18,039,90x)
I looked and my /416\ PS rifle is not on the list, :o for whatever reason, Besplode , so, add 18,038,103 to the /416\ PS list. (pics on request)
I did get the Poly Tech "Certififcate of Authenticity" from KFS for my Chinese SKS Public Security Forces Rifle. It was made at the State Arsenal /416\ in Shandong Provence, China. Imported on October 13, 1987 and sold on February 02, 1988. CofA signed by David Keng and Da Keng.
Then there are the [0141] PS rifles from this month's listing:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/572992622 (http://www.gunbroker.com/item/572992622)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/572992000/572992622/pix195041059.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/572992000/572992622/pix006745791.jpg)
And, the 2nd one: (RM, this may already be on the list. There's a 24,001,67X already on the list. I won't add this to the total number unless you say it's an additional (close serial number alert) serial number.) thumb1 :P
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/575809599 (http://www.gunbroker.com/item/575809599)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/575809000/575809599/pix360535263.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/575809000/575809599/pix856830237.jpg)
Then, the /416\ PS rifles:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/576685177 (http://www.gunbroker.com/item/576685177)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/576685000/576685177/pix548406936.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/576685000/576685177/pix417591151.jpg)
Unfortunately, the last PS rifle was one of those picture deficient auctions with no pic of the receiver/sn. (dollars to donuts, I bet it was a /416\, too.)
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/576655406 (http://www.gunbroker.com/item/576655406)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/576655000/576655406/pix960929418.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/576655000/576655406/pix083382822.jpg)
So, even though it we know it's there, we can't record it's existence. It's out.
Four PS rifles sold this month, three two that can/could be recorded. With my /416\ PS added to the list, along with the above three two PS rifle sales:
[0140]=0? (I know LC said there is record of one, it's just not on the list)
[0141]=8 total on list (all within sn 24,000,08X to 24,000,363X)
[0144]=4 total on list (all within sn 2,400,46X to 2,401,92X)
/416\=20 total on list (1 sn 1,625,13X)
(12 between sn 1,706,75X to 1,730,43x)
(7 between sn 18,030,04X to 18,039,90x)
Total of 32 PS rifles on the list now. This does not include any /26\ PS rifles, which I think LC said he has evidence of, as well?
Gee whiz RM, I'm spinning here. This isn't anything like you do every month and I'm spun out from this little bit. Good job to you guys again for all this data you're bringing in!
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Quote from: Power Surge on September 12, 2016, 10:07:14 PM
It would be interesting to get a number from KFS as to how many PS rifles were imported. I see a lot of them for sale online, so I'd be surprised if it was a small import number.
If the 2 pallet imported theory is correct, then that would mean 10 cases per pallet with 10 carbines per case or only 200 PS carbines imported. I am basing pallet size on the pallets Classic had stacked in their yard (still in the shipping wire) when they received their last shipment of Yugos.
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac131/gail_peterson1/Misc/Classin%20Yugos_zpsmxw2ibpi.jpg)
Good job FC!
I'm ashamed to admit I probably have 2 to 300 S/N that haven't been recorded to any of the tracking threads yet. Albys, Romys, letter prefixed Chinese, you name it. About the only ones that get worked on ASAP are when a new Trinity gun tirns up.
I have the [0140] PS (I think), and I know I have at least 1 of PS marked /26\ guns in my files. Too many irons in the fire and not enough time in the day to get everything recorded the way it needs to be I'm afraid. Maybe I can make a Public Security subsection in one of the tracking threads and we can consolidate everything into a single section for these for easier tracking.
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/public-security-26.html
And there was one on broker but I didn't save pics I dont think.
Quote from: montigre on September 13, 2016, 07:42:35 AM
If the 2 pallet imported theory is correct, then that would mean 10 cases per pallet with 10 carbines per case or only 200 PS carbines imported. I am basing pallet size on the pallets Classic had stacked in their yard (still in the shipping wire) when they received their last shipment of Yugos.
I just can't see that... I see at least 10 of these guns a month for sale on the various internet sales sites I visit daily. There has to be way more of these guns. I could be wrong, but I'd be really surprised if the number is even less than 1000 rifles.
Quote from: Power Surge on September 13, 2016, 07:39:57 PM
I just can't see that... I see at least 10 of these guns a month for sale on the various internet sales sites I visit daily. There has to be way more of these guns. I could be wrong, but I'd be really surprised if the number is even less than 1000 rifles.
Agreed. That's my point and the reason why I feel the 2 pallet import figure that is being promulgated on various sites is incorrect.
Lots of questions for KFS.... Hope FC can get him on..