I'm brand spanking new to the sks world, picked up a Norinco over the weekend. I've been reading alot but don't see much info on a 27,xxx,xxx serial number. Any thoughts?
Quote from: Shelbyco150 on November 01, 2016, 06:29:44 PM
I'm brand spanking new to the sks world, picked up a Norinco over the weekend. I've been reading alot but don't see much info on a 27,xxx,xxx serial number. Any thoughts?
Welcome to the site :)
A 27 mil gun is a pretty late built gun, circa 1982. We've also seen 28s and 29s, but they are pretty uncommon compared to the older ones.
I'll say it before everyone else does...... let's see some pics! Then we can better see exactly what you've got.
Pictures would help a lot, especially of any markings on the receiver such a triangle.
Quote from: Power Surge on November 01, 2016, 06:37:12 PM
Welcome to the site :)
A 27 mil gun is a pretty late built gun, circa 1982. We've also seen 28s and 29s, but they are pretty uncommon compared to the older ones.
I'll say it before everyone else does...... let's see some pics! Then we can better see exactly what you've got.
What he said! thumb1
There are both arsenal stamped and non arsenal stamped guns in the high 20's:
/416\:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/29003175_receiver.jpg)
Non arsenal stamped:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/no_stamp/29002942_receiver.jpg)
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So by the 29mil guns were the Chinese still making military production or was it all commercial sales??? Military export?
Type 81 meant a phasing out of sks from military use.
I'll post pics when I get home. Thanks fellas
Quote from: fenceline on November 01, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
So by the 29mil guns were the Chinese still making military production or was it all commercial sales??? Military export?
29th year of production would be ~1984. I guess they could have been making them for police and militia still, but type 81 would have been in full swing by '84. I've never seen a year 30 SKS (I don't think anyhow).
By 1984, Chinese arms were legally for sale in the US for the first time since China turned red if ever. That's a pretty lucrative market that just appeared out of nowhere. We have seen advertisements for Clayco M8s that we know date from mid to late '84. If I take my Clayco M8 and compare it to a 29 mil /416\ or non-arsenal stamped, aside from the missing bayo, they are identical in every way from the pinned barrel to the RSL markings. Take some of the later commercial models like the SKS M and its variants, and I'd bet the components strongly resemble these late 29 mil guns.
Quote from: running-man on November 01, 2016, 09:27:53 PM
Quote from: fenceline on November 01, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
So by the 29mil guns were the Chinese still making military production or was it all commercial sales??? Military export?
If I take my Clayco M8 and compare it to a 29 mil /416\ or non-arsenal stamped, aside from the missing bayo, they are identical in every way from the pinned barrel to the RSL markings. Take some of the later commercial models like the SKS M and its variants, and I'd bet the components strongly resemble these late 29 mil guns.
That's an interesting side note RM. If you look at the M8 FSB, it looks just like the late Sporter and M FSB. But what's odd about that, is there is a 10 year gap between those two guns, and yet other non-bayo models in between used different FSBs.
I can't post pics. I tried and tried, anybody I can email then to or text. Would love to let u guys take a look.
No worries! Send them to me: running-man @ sks-files.com
and I'll put them up for you. thumb1
Thank you, sent
There is the triangle 106 I believe it to be.
Highest we currently have for that arsenal is a 23rd year. Looking forward to the pics. thumb1
I resent pics to running-man
He will get them up.... He is on mountain time and likely just got home recently.
I'm thinking it should have a spike on it missing the cleaning rod other than that its complete numbers all match. Best of all shoots like a dream..
Spike would be correct if its what we think it is. thumb1
Awesome ty. I'm sure he'll get the pics up.
(Sorry, photobucket is being ridiculous yet again. Almost at my breaking point with that adware site.)
Looks like a /416\ to me. Poly Technologies import. Nice little gun. Should have a spike bayo.
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5954.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5955.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5956.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5957.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5958.jpg)
Very nice!
clap1
Looks like its in great shape!
Would it be a military rifle?
Yes indeed. /416\ arsenal built, likely in 1982. The /416\s are nice quality firearms, head and shoulders above some of the smaller [] and /\ arsenals.
Awesome and thanks for the help! I gave 200 for it and figured it to be a fair price, i like shooting it better than my mac90.
Quote from: Shelbyco150 on November 03, 2016, 09:09:51 PM
Awesome and thanks for the help! I gave 200 for it and figured it to be a fair price, i like shooting it better than my mac90.
That's a smoking deal. That would normally be a 350-400 dollar rifle easy.