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Title: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 01, 2016, 06:29:44 PM
I'm brand spanking new to the sks world, picked up a Norinco over the weekend. I've been reading alot but don't see much info on a 27,xxx,xxx serial number. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Power Surge on November 01, 2016, 06:37:12 PM
Quote from: Shelbyco150 on November 01, 2016, 06:29:44 PM
I'm brand spanking new to the sks world, picked up a Norinco over the weekend. I've been reading alot but don't see much info on a 27,xxx,xxx serial number. Any thoughts?

Welcome to the site :)

A 27 mil gun is a pretty late built gun, circa 1982. We've also seen 28s and 29s, but they are pretty uncommon compared to the older ones.

I'll say it before everyone else does...... let's see some pics!  Then we can better see exactly what you've got.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: fenceline on November 01, 2016, 06:37:47 PM
Pictures would help a lot, especially of any markings on the receiver such a triangle.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: running-man on November 01, 2016, 06:43:23 PM
Quote from: Power Surge on November 01, 2016, 06:37:12 PM
Welcome to the site :)

A 27 mil gun is a pretty late built gun, circa 1982. We've also seen 28s and 29s, but they are pretty uncommon compared to the older ones.

I'll say it before everyone else does...... let's see some pics!  Then we can better see exactly what you've got.

What he said!  thumb1

There are both arsenal stamped and non arsenal stamped guns in the high 20's:

/416\:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/29003175_receiver.jpg)

Non arsenal stamped:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/no_stamp/29002942_receiver.jpg)

Instructions for posting photos are here: How to post photos (https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=87.0)
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: fenceline on November 01, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
So by the 29mil guns were the Chinese still making military production or was it all commercial sales???  Military export?
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on November 01, 2016, 06:58:43 PM
Type 81 meant a phasing out of sks from military use.   
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 01, 2016, 07:06:16 PM
I'll post pics when I get home. Thanks fellas
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: running-man on November 01, 2016, 09:27:53 PM
Quote from: fenceline on November 01, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
So by the 29mil guns were the Chinese still making military production or was it all commercial sales???  Military export?

29th year of production would be ~1984.  I guess they could have been making them for police and militia still, but type 81 would have been in full swing by '84.  I've never seen a year 30 SKS (I don't think anyhow). 

By 1984, Chinese arms were legally for sale in the US for the first time since China turned red if ever.  That's a pretty lucrative market that just appeared out of nowhere. We have seen advertisements for Clayco M8s that we know date from mid to late '84.  If I take my Clayco M8 and compare it to a 29 mil /416\ or non-arsenal stamped, aside from the missing bayo, they are identical in every way from the pinned barrel to the RSL markings.  Take some of the later commercial models like the SKS M and its variants, and I'd bet the components strongly resemble these late 29 mil guns.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Power Surge on November 01, 2016, 10:04:56 PM
Quote from: running-man on November 01, 2016, 09:27:53 PM
Quote from: fenceline on November 01, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
So by the 29mil guns were the Chinese still making military production or was it all commercial sales???  Military export?
If I take my Clayco M8 and compare it to a 29 mil /416\ or non-arsenal stamped, aside from the missing bayo, they are identical in every way from the pinned barrel to the RSL markings.  Take some of the later commercial models like the SKS M and its variants, and I'd bet the components strongly resemble these late 29 mil guns.

That's an interesting side note RM. If you look at the M8 FSB, it looks just like the late Sporter and M FSB. But what's odd about that, is there is a 10 year gap between those two guns, and yet other non-bayo models in between used different FSBs.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 02, 2016, 01:11:25 PM
I can't post pics. I tried and tried, anybody I can email then to or text. Would love to let u guys take a look.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: running-man on November 02, 2016, 02:05:27 PM
No worries!  Send them to me: running-man @ sks-files.com

and I'll put them up for you.  thumb1
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 02, 2016, 03:40:40 PM
Thank you, sent
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 02, 2016, 09:27:36 PM
There is the triangle 106 I believe it to be.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on November 02, 2016, 09:36:24 PM
Highest we currently have for that arsenal is a 23rd year.   Looking forward to the pics.   thumb1
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 02, 2016, 09:52:55 PM
I resent pics to running-man
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on November 02, 2016, 09:57:49 PM
He will get them up....  He is on mountain time and likely just got home recently. 
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 02, 2016, 10:08:02 PM
I'm thinking it should have a spike on it missing the cleaning rod other than that its complete numbers all match. Best of all shoots like a dream..
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on November 02, 2016, 10:21:14 PM
Spike would be correct if its what we think it is.   thumb1
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 02, 2016, 10:23:34 PM
Awesome ty. I'm sure he'll get the pics up.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: running-man on November 02, 2016, 11:35:43 PM
(Sorry, photobucket is being ridiculous yet again.  Almost at my breaking point with that adware site.)

Looks like a /416\ to me.  Poly Technologies import.  Nice little gun.  Should have a spike bayo.

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5954.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5955.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5956.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5957.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/T416/IMG_5958.jpg)
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Power Surge on November 02, 2016, 11:36:51 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on November 03, 2016, 07:40:53 AM
 clap1


Looks like its in great shape!
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 03, 2016, 03:34:54 PM
Would it be a military rifle?
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: running-man on November 03, 2016, 04:07:19 PM
Yes indeed.  /416\ arsenal built, likely in 1982.  The /416\s are nice quality firearms, head and shoulders above some of the smaller [] and /\ arsenals.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Shelbyco150 on November 03, 2016, 09:09:51 PM
Awesome and thanks for the help! I gave 200 for it and figured it to be a fair price, i like shooting it better than my mac90.
Title: Re: 27,xxx,xxx serial number
Post by: Power Surge on November 03, 2016, 09:14:06 PM
Quote from: Shelbyco150 on November 03, 2016, 09:09:51 PM
Awesome and thanks for the help! I gave 200 for it and figured it to be a fair price, i like shooting it better than my mac90.

That's a smoking deal. That would normally be a 350-400 dollar rifle easy.