Hi,
I'm new and wanted to say greetings to everyone. I have a NIB one of the first series of 6600 detachable mag SKS, which is #838. This gun is well documented in history here. I purchased this from a gunstore in Kansas city in the summer of 86. I am looking at possibly selling it to a loving home and wanted to get collect ability and a reasonable asking price. I am a retired disabled army nurse and want to be fair to my fellow gunners... Thanks for any help. Pm if any info needed. Take care..
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Welcome to the forum! I wish I could help on putting a value on it but, I cant. Hopefully someone else who can will be along shortly to help you on that. And also, thank you for your service!
Its a Beta Arms imported SKS-D. Pre ban carbine.
That's a sweet carbine you got there.
The serial number indicates that its dated to 1988 -- so maybe you've mis-rememered the date of purchase. But I'm guessing you got a killer deal on it when you got it. You don't see them in that condition often.
It's a pretty wide open price range-- depends on the determination of the buyers and where you post it-- but I'd say $800 minimum up to the $1300 (not really absurd range and possibly higher).
Experts, what say ye?
Go here and look for the sks-d in the spread sheet: https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=1607.msg19084#msg19084
and here for some detailed info on yer model of sks carbine: http://chinesesks.weebly.com/d.html
lucky, lucky, lucky
Do you have all the accessories and manual/pamphlet that came with it?
Also you say "NIB"-- why in the world have you never fired it for almost 30 years?
I would say that price range is right in the ball park......find the right buyer or buyer(s) and hope they get in a bidding war.....if you put a Buy It Know option on there.....don't put it too low....AND Welcome!
Quote from: padams8888 on June 26, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
I would say that price range is right in the ball park......find the right buyer or buyer(s) and hope they get in a bidding war.....if you put a Buy It Know option on there.....don't put it too low....AND Welcome!
padams8888--
The mags alone are worth about 75-100 each? Or am I mis-remembering?
Boris B.
As far as date you are correct it was 89 ;( What you see is what came in the box, I have looked and found a new manual I'll get for it. As far as not shooting it I have a Polytech legend i use, so really no urge to use what I knew was going to be a rare item. I have a NIB Navy Arms carbine that I have as well, box, invoice from 89. I need help with identification, and worth etc. I had a FFL back then when it was easy to get hence the variety of guns Ive had, now older they should go to someone like you all for enjoyment..
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Where is the best place if I want to place these for sale? Thanks for the replies and interest, i appreciate it, I have an original NIB 75 rd drum in a wrapper for the D. Mark
Quote from: Boris Badinov on June 26, 2017, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: padams8888 on June 26, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
I would say that price range is right in the ball park......find the right buyer or buyer(s) and hope they get in a bidding war.....if you put a Buy It Know option on there.....don't put it too low....AND Welcome!
padams8888--
The mags alone are worth about 75-100 each? Or am I mis-remembering?
Boris B.
No....those are just regular flat back ChiCom mags.....even NOS they are currently going for $30-$35. If they were chrome follower polytech mags....yes.
Do you have the scope and mount for the N.A. Paratrooper?
No didnt come with one, at the time I never questioned it sadly, you can barely tell it has navy arms stamped into it,so I dont know if it was a very early model or late..?
Find your import mark here..
https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2111.0
Welcome to the forum, and to the Commercial Chinese section Armyrn33 8)
That's a gorgeous rifle you've got there. I would say, given the past 6 months or so of Gunbroker sales, that your rifle would be worth between $750 and $1100. Most of them that we see for sale are in excellent shape. Ones without boxes have been selling in the $750-$900 range. The original box and accessories usually adds $100-$200 onto that price. But of course, we all know it just comes down to how many people want your particular gun at the time :)
Does your rifle have the stripper clip groove in the bolt? Most of the early Beta Arms versions did. The ones I have on file with serials before, and after yours, all have stripper clip grooves.
Let's all also try to stop the bad habit of calling this rifle an SKS-D. That is in improper term. The proper model for this rifle is the SKS-30. The SKS-D is what Midwest Ordnance called their in house made version of the SKS-30.
As for your other SKS, it looks like a Navy Arms standard paratrooper. However, in the one pic, I think I see the end of a scope mount. Can you get a better pic of that?
Ah, yes--
My bad. I'm not as up-to-date on the commercial variants. But I read the posts and research that came out last winter regarding terminology.
Powersurge is the resident expert on the commerical variants-- and he is correct.
It's a SKS-30.
Thanks Powersurge for your help,nice to be home in a sense ;) Yes I chesked the SKS 30 does have the stripper clip insert into the bolt. The Navy arms does have the rail on the left side to mount a scope. The stamp on the paratrooper is the the same as post #9 https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2111.0, An oddball, not quite sure where it came from?
Quote from: Armyrn33 on June 26, 2017, 07:28:56 PM
Thanks Powersurge for your help,nice to be home in a sense ;) Yes I chesked the SKS 30 does have the stripper clip insert into the bolt. The Navy arms does have the rail on the left side to mount a scope. The stamp on the paratrooper is the the same as post #9 https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2111.0, An oddball, not quite sure where it came from?
You're saying you have a B-west import stamp on that paratrooper? I can plainly see the Navy Arms import stamp on there....
Correct its Navy arms but the arsenal stamp is from the gun in post #9 from running man ?916 / 946...
Quote from: Armyrn33 on June 26, 2017, 09:08:35 PM
Correct its Navy arms but the arsenal stamp is from the gun in post #9 from running man ?916 / 946...
Your arsenal stamp is /26\. Your gun is a 7 mil serial. It would have been built at Jianshe (/26\).
Welcome to the boards ArmyRN, glad to have you here. I can't add anything beyond what's already been discussed except to say that your SKS30 is beautiful. The May Gunbroker sales figures are not done yet (I'm running way behind!) but PS's and Boris's estimates are both probably pretty close to what we'll find.
The Navy Arms paratrooper is quite nice too. Do you still have the original 10 round magazine for it?
Thank you Power Surge for the interpretation of the arsenal stamp for me :) As well Running-Man for your work, I look forward to the spreadsheets, Interesting info on the movement of SKSs, yes I do have the original magazine for the trooper here..
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hi Army and welcome. good to have you here. sure is a beauty. thumb1
Welcome to the board Armyrn33! I'm a bit late to this thread and missed all your SKS-30 pics, except for the pic of the 3 mags. Any way you could repost those pics? I always like to ogle a nice Beta Arms SKS-30! Nice blond wood and smooth as silk. Is the wood still unblemished? Any "handling marks", as they say? Usually dings from sticking them in a gun safe without a gun sock. I never take mine out of the box. (except to fondle and take an occasional pic, of course)
Neither of my NIB (Beta Arms) SKS-30's came with a Beta Arms marked Owners Manual. I've looked high and low, but nyet! I can't imagine Beta Arms shipping out those kits w/o a manual. Possibly just used a generic with no company name? Maybe? May never know, for sure.
My two cents on worth? First, try to sell to a true believer. :) And don't take anything less than a $1000.00, preferably into the 1200-1300 range. I believe padams8888 holds the current record on SKS-30 auction sale price! Thing is, Mark, they're becoming fewer in this condition by the day. We see so many that have been Bubba'd and just sad to look at. I literally play taps many times while cruising the auctions. Hold onto it until you get what you want, unless you're needing to turn it fast.
And, please let us,(ME) know when and where you decide to sell that "old piece of Chinese junk"! :) You'll entice a bid, or two , from me. ;) Of course, this is all conjecture until I can see pics of your fine Chinese work of art! I could be a bit more precise about value if I could see the condition and pics.
Have you looked at the end of your cardboard carton that holds the styofoam divider? On one end should be a white tag/sticker with Beta Arms inventory info, and the SKS-30 designation is there on that tag. If the tag's there, please try to ensure it's survival. Most boxes apparently didn't survive and the ones that did sometimes lost the inventory tag. It's a definite credit to Power Surge and XXXSKS in sorting out al those corrected model names, dates, and order of import by year.
Looking forward to seeing your pics of the SKS-30, hopefully. popcorn1
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Thanks to everyone's hospitality and information sharing, its been enlightening with allthe info. I do not have a manual as well. I have an oiler bottle on order for it. I apologize for the picture's missing from the first post:( I will definitively place a post up when it goes for sale. I purchased this knowing that it was a rare 1 off version with few numbers produced.It is in mint condition, with no rds fired thru it. I had spotted it on the shelf of a Kansas city gun shop my dad and I had visited.. I have 4 polytech AK mags as well, 2 used and 2 new in the wrappers swell. Enjoy the pics and please let me know if anyone has more questions.. Everyone have a great day...
Lookie.... Says sks30 on the box label. 8)
That's a beautiful SKS-30. I don't know if I'd call it RARE... they made over 8000 of them, just through Beta Arms alone. But, the market is the market, and they have been jumped up in price in the past year.
On the topic of the oil bottle and the manual....
Two versions of oil bottle have been seen coming with Beta Arms SKS-30s. A round white oil bottle, and a rectangular green oil bottle. There does not seem to be a pattern to what bottle came at what point in time....but only those two bottles have been seen in NIB versions.
As for the manual, Beta Arms did not have their own manual. Beta Arms SKS-30s came with China Sports manuals.