Hello from Oklahoma, I was looking for info and found it here, thanks. I'll hang out awhile if you don't mind. I'm no expert so I won't bore you with my knowledge. I may ask some questions. I sit all day at a screen so my off time is usually NOT in this chair unless I get curious about something. That said I do have what according to your chart is a 1978 (thanks again) /26\ Norinco Poly, 23114XXX K that I bought new back in the late 80's. Over time I tried a folding stock, a klugey scope and mount that never held and detachable 30 rnd. mags that were wobbly and more trouble than they were worth, all were disappointing compared to the original configuration. So I put all the original pieces back over three decades ago. The only concession I’ve made is a larger attached 20 rnd. box in place of the original 10 rnd. box. Now about that K!
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Welcome from Washington thumb1 Glad to have you here.
Regarding the letter suffix, the thread below has a lot of discussion of the issue. Personally, I think it was most likely added by the importer. Probably overkill in every case but the importer just making sure they didn’t have a duplicate serial number in their records.
https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=3852.0
Welcome to the forum simpleman! Yes, you found the correct place to research and learn as much as you care to about the SKS!
Welcome from Kentucky, simpleman. Sounds like you've got a good, solid rifle. For the 20 rounder, did you use the ChiCom mag or a different version? Cheers, Bruce.
Greetings from New Mexico! Glad you found us. Please let us know if we can do anything for you. Welcome aboard. thumb1
hi Oklahoma and welcome. good to have you here. thumb1
Quote from: Bacarnal on April 29, 2020, 08:08:44 AM
Welcome from Kentucky, simpleman. Sounds like you've got a good, solid rifle. For the 20 rounder, did you use the ChiCom mag or a different version? Cheers, Bruce.
Hi Bruce, the 20 rnd mag is stamped "made in china" in cursive on the bottom so likely a later commercial offering? The original is stamped with part ser.# of course. Did this type even come with anything other than 10 rnd. mags from the factory?
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on April 29, 2020, 05:00:27 AM
Welcome from Washington thumb1 Glad to have you here.
Regarding the letter suffix, the thread below has a lot of discussion of the issue. Personally, I think it was most likely added by the importer. Probably overkill in every case but the importer just making sure they didn’t have a duplicate serial number in their records.
https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=3852.0
Thanks, I had actually read that string already. You guys are eat up with the details, I like it! So that was just me being, well...me! I will keep looking in on that one.
Hello from NH.Interesting that you have a pre 1980 Norinco Polytech.Is it marked as such?
Quote from: Bubbazinetti on April 29, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
Hello from NH.Interesting that you have a pre 1980 Norinco Polytech.Is it marked as such?
(https://i.ibb.co/2NDVzn9/Mfg-Norinco.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tX7j0mG)
(https://i.ibb.co/Bz7K6Xh/Serial-No-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gjXFW50)
From what I decipher here 1978 is correct, if not please let me know.
(https://i.ibb.co/X5GhNJx/1-right-profile.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R6JxZHT)
I resized this pic to post the whole rifle. Is rifle correct or is it carbine?
interesting note, this rifle came with ammo belt that carries 200 rnds in clips with maint pouch for oil bottle etc. and 1100 rnds Chinese ammo. I still have a can of 550 rnds unopened. I quit using it because cleanup was too intense.
Quote from: simpleman on April 29, 2020, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Bubbazinetti on April 29, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
Hello from NH.Interesting that you have a pre 1980 Norinco Polytech.Is it marked as such?
(https://i.ibb.co/2NDVzn9/Mfg-Norinco.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tX7j0mG)
(https://i.ibb.co/Bz7K6Xh/Serial-No-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gjXFW50)
From what I decipher here 1978 is correct, if not please let me know.
/26\ 23 million serial number, so it's a Jianshe Arsenal Type 56 made in 1978. The SKS has carbine in it's name (in Russian) but a carbine is also a rifle. Formally, the more specific term would be carbine. Your example is in the original 52cm (20.5") barrel length.
The rifle vs carbine terminology debate will rage until the end of time. My favorite answer that I’ve ever seen has to be: “Simonov called it a carbine, so it’s a carbine!”
The “Poly” on the side of this one indicates or was imported by Poly USA out of Atlanta, GA. See https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2111.0 for a bit of info on what that actually means. (It was still exported by Norinco, so not really a ‘Polytech gun’ in a certain sense. See https://clone.sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2059.0 for a good primer on Norinco vs Polytech & a brief history of the split .)
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Quote from: running-man on April 29, 2020, 10:33:39 PM
“Simonov called it a carbine, so it’s a carbine!”
But did he call it a Car-bean or car-byne? rofl
Quote from: newchi on April 29, 2020, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: running-man on April 29, 2020, 10:33:39 PM
“Simonov called it a carbine, so it’s a carbine!”
But did he call it a Car-bean or car-byne? rofl
He called it a карабин :)
So any Norinco marking on a /26\ will obviously represent the enterprise that later exported it. http://www.jianshetrade.com/wm/en/AboutUs.aspx?id=4
So it's likely a Poly#4 classification of a likely very late import batch I'm surmising?And not actually manufactured by Norinco despite what is stamped on the receiver because of the 1978 date code?
Welcome from SW Missouri, simpleman! Hope you stick around for a long time. This is a process of learning that takes time and input from many members. It's always best to have as many examples of the SKS and the features data as possible.
Very nice example of the Chinese Type 56 Carbine you have there! I like the '78-'80 years of /26\ production of the Type 56 Carbine!
After firing the Chinese x39 rounds that you have, did you clean the gas tube, gas block, and gas piston thoroughly? That early Chinese ammo was pretty corrosive stuff. Many folks didn't know about it and put their carbines away after shooting. It can sure mess up a nice firearm!
firstchoice
Welcome, theres lots of info here, far too much to be healthy for your wallet tbh
Greetings, I have your carbine's older sister, a 2309xxxxK as well.
Great SKS for sure....not to rib you or anything on your intro post....but I gotta....
Your bayonet is on upside down.
:)
By the way, that mag is worth a few bucks all by itself.
I agree with Larry, those mags have certainly increased in price. I've got one on a Paratrooper and I still can't tell whether I love it or hate it :-\. It does function well, though thumb1.
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on April 29, 2020, 10:48:08 PM
Quote from: newchi on April 29, 2020, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: running-man on April 29, 2020, 10:33:39 PM
“Simonov called it a carbine, so it’s a carbine!”
But did he call it a Car-bean or car-byne? rofl
He called it a карабин :)
I'll go with rifle cause I'm lazy, fewer letters. Besides, switching to Russian font every time?
Quote from: firstchoice on April 30, 2020, 02:01:27 AM
After firing the Chinese x39 rounds that you have, did you clean the gas tube, gas block, and gas piston thoroughly? That early Chinese ammo was pretty corrosive stuff. Many folks didn't know about it and put their carbines away after shooting. It can sure mess up a nice firearm!
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yes I know a guy, he warned me so I gave it a clean at the range, washing/clean/oil after getting home, clean/oil next day etc. Really good shooting ammo but way to intense to clean, that's why I quit using it. I thought about selling the remaining can but then thought it's part of my starter kit so just call it a collectable.
Quote from: Justin Hell on April 30, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
Greetings, I have your carbine's older sister, a 2309xxxxK as well.
Great SKS for sure....not to rib you or anything on your intro post....but I gotta....
Your bayonet is on upside down.
:)
Nice, the bayonet had been off for years and I never gave it a thought when it slipped right on that way, a quick fix, though I doubt anyone that ever got afoul of its intended purpose gave much thought to whether it was upside down or not!
Nah, blood is designed to run downhill and that would just stop it up prank1 :).
Welcome to the forum Simpleman!
Greetings from CA, and welcome aboard! Nice looking rifle, sir!