I have purchased a few tools over the years. Most I won't use, since I'm not a gunsmith, but the front sight adjustment tools will be handy. This latest and largest armorer's tools and gauges box was like opening a time capsule from 1952.
(https://i.ibb.co/rf7n7pR/Collection.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h17p7dJ)
(https://i.ibb.co/wYvgMk0/Big-box-inside-wrapped-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kMdBQ7H)
(https://i.ibb.co/mRJ70Fb/Big-box-inside-wrapped-tools.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S6Npc75)
(https://i.ibb.co/BT1gKS6/Big-box-instructions.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3SJ0YLF)
(https://i.ibb.co/4gCzbNQ/Big-box-inside-unwrapped.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jZqmC4p)
(https://i.ibb.co/sJMbZRR/Big-box-inside-unwrapped-sight-adjuster.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bR8Qkmm)
Headspace Gauges: CIP specifications for distance to the neck is 33.00mm. The three gauges are marked 32.85, 32.95 and 33.15mm
(https://i.ibb.co/qyJDw5f/Big-box-inside-unwrapped-headspace-gauges.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h7Ygvfj)
(https://i.ibb.co/qn6RQTC/762x39mm-CIP.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Nice!!! Where can I get a set?
Quote from: Bacarnal on September 05, 2020, 08:45:56 PM
Nice!!! Where can I get a set?
Username assistant802 over on Gunboards sells items like this on his "All sorts of rarities from Russia" WTS thread. He lives in Russia (halfway between Moscow and Volgograd, in Lipetsk).
I absolutely LOVE stuff like this.
Honestly, I find things like this fascinating just because
A- It's tools.
B- They're very specialized (tool) kits for armorers.
I've seen those a few times listed by the aforementioned seller. They look super neat thumb1
Should be a nice background item for photo shoots too 8)
never seen that. nice, thanks for sharing.
Nice and interesting! thumb1
Quote from: Larry D. on September 05, 2020, 11:33:03 PM
I absolutely LOVE stuff like this.
Honestly, I find things like this fascinating just because
A- It's tools.
B- They're very specialized (tool) kits for armorers.
Agree! It's pretty cool to have a full armorer's set for 7.62x39 firearms from the early days of SKS manufacture.
Quote from: Shoot The Refurbs on September 06, 2020, 12:27:38 AM
I've seen those a few times listed by the aforementioned seller. They look super neat thumb1
Should be a nice background item for photo shoots too 8)
Good idea thumb1
The front sight windage adjustment tool is a very solid instrument.
(https://i.ibb.co/9vBfcXR/IMG-2186.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wL8bBHD)
(https://i.ibb.co/mN54MzC/IMG-2183.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5KhLfcW)
(https://i.ibb.co/pj6FKrd/IMG-2187.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4RwrSgp)
Thanks for posting, Jon!!!
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on September 06, 2020, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: Shoot The Refurbs on September 06, 2020, 12:27:38 AM
I've seen those a few times listed by the aforementioned seller. They look super neat thumb1
Should be a nice background item for photo shoots too 8)
Good idea thumb1
The front sight windage adjustment tool is a very solid instrument.
(https://i.ibb.co/pj6FKrd/IMG-2187.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4RwrSgp)
Too cool!
Here are a few tools for the Soviet Mosin M91/30. The front sight adjuster/remover won't work on the carbines since their barrels and front sight bases are a larger diameter.
(https://i.ibb.co/nQSZSjW/Mosin-Sight-Adj-Box-inside.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F8tNtzP)
(https://i.ibb.co/9v4SqpF/Mosin-Sight-Adj-Box-outside.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dcpxQfd)
(https://i.ibb.co/bgn9Qw1/Mosin-headspace-gauge.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HDQ8Bw7)
(https://i.ibb.co/D4hqGvd/Mosin-Sight-Adj-close.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G7yhs8m)
(https://i.ibb.co/ysCmBbM/Mosin-Sight-Adj-on-rifle-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WKXNpYd)
(https://i.ibb.co/M1GTxb2/Mosin-Sight-Adj-on-rifle-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/09FNRkD)
Now we know why it's so hard to move those sights with the dinky little tools we normally have on our work benches, :))
Quote from: Greatguns on September 07, 2020, 03:22:29 PM
Now we know why it's so hard to move those sights with the dinky little tools we normally have on our work benches, :))
rofl Yeah, these definitely provide more mechanical advantage.
What are the tools along the right hand side of the SKS tool box? Is the tool just above the bore gauges some type of muzzle-wear gauge?
Such a cool set of tools! And in mint condition, too!
firstchoice
Nice stuff P32. I have the 91/30 sight tools. I think they're cool stuff to have.
I have seen on occasion the Chinese front sight tool that is similar, but only once the Russian kit....that thing is gorgeous. I don't recall the price tag, but I do know it was enough that I didn't even consider it.
I am also curious about the other tools in there and their purpose...I don't recall seeing those in the kit I had seen previously, just the headspace gauges and the sight tool.
Quote from: firstchoice on September 08, 2020, 05:54:00 AM
What are the tools along the right hand side of the SKS tool box? Is the tool just above the bore gauges some type of muzzle-wear gauge?
Such a cool set of tools! And in mint condition, too!
firstchoice
The short black tools are for checking the distance from the bolt face to the extractor for the AK, RPK, and SKS.
The notched end tools in the white, are for checking firing pin protrusion on the AK, RPK, and SKS.
Yes, above the three chamber headspace gauges is a long bore gauge. It's marked 7.772, which is 0.306", so it must be a bore reject gauge, since the nominal diameters of the bore and lands are 7.62mm (.300") and 7.87 (.310).
Quote from: Bob_The_Student on September 08, 2020, 01:34:45 PM
Nice stuff P32. I have the 91/30 sight tools. I think they're cool stuff to have.
Thanks Bob. Yeah, the sight pushers are really handy.
Quote from: Justin Hell on September 08, 2020, 02:03:37 PM
I have seen on occasion the Chinese front sight tool that is similar, but only once the Russian kit....that thing is gorgeous. I don't recall the price tag, but I do know it was enough that I didn't even consider it.
I am also curious about the other tools in there and their purpose...I don't recall seeing those in the kit I had seen previously, just the headspace gauges and the sight tool.
That's cool. I've never seen a military Chinese tool.
This kit wasn't exactly cheap, but I'm glad to have it. I think I've covered the other tools in my response to FC that I was working on while you posted.
really neat stuff! thanks for sharing
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on September 08, 2020, 02:46:41 PM
Quote from: Justin Hell on September 08, 2020, 02:03:37 PM
I have seen on occasion the Chinese front sight tool that is similar, but only once the Russian kit....that thing is gorgeous. I don't recall the price tag, but I do know it was enough that I didn't even consider it.
I am also curious about the other tools in there and their purpose...I don't recall seeing those in the kit I had seen previously, just the headspace gauges and the sight tool.
The main difference in the sight tool, is that yours looks like it belongs in a doctor's office whereas the Chinese looks like you would expect it. rofl
If I understood your description of the other tools, would that be something useful for headspacing a new bolt? If so, if you could explain it's use a tad, and give some measurements, it might be handy for someone like me.... :)
That's cool. I've never seen a military Chinese tool.
This kit wasn't exactly cheap, but I'm glad to have it. I think I've covered the other tools in my response to FC that I was working on while you posted.
Hey Justin,
Yeah, the three headspace gauges are useful for checking a new bolt.
--The bolt should close on the Go gauge (32.85 mm), if it doesn't, headspace is too tight, i.e., there is insufficient headspace; not enough room to accommodate the cartridge in the chamber and allow the bolt to fully close.
--For factory new specifications, the bolt should not close on the No-Go gauge (32.95mm), but for a used firearm, I wouldn't worry about it, as long as it doesn't close on the Field gauge.
--The bolt should definitely not close on the Field gauge (33.15mm). If it does close, there is too much headspace and the case head may not be supported well enough to avoid rupturing and dispensing gasses rearward.
Headspace Gauges: CIP specifications for distance to the neck is 33.00mm. The three gauges are marked 32.85, 32.95 and 33.15mm
(https://i.ibb.co/qyJDw5f/Big-box-inside-unwrapped-headspace-gauges.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h7Ygvfj)
I've checked headspace on some surplus bolt action guns, but never on a semi-auto. Using the headspace tools, is it like an assisted slow push forward with the tool already mounted on the bolt face with extractor claw already engaged? Since I've yet to do it I thought I'd ask the folks that have done it.
firstchoice
I've done it on every AR-15 that I've ever assembled and it's great at catching things before a disaster results.I received an upper from a nationally very well known supplier that the headspace was completely out to lunch.Had it rma'd under warranty and they next day aired me a new one that was perfect.I then continued assembly and test firing without issues.Most will tell you it doesn't need to get done,and 99% of the time they're right until it happens to you.Then you do it every time,the right way and not assume it was done correctly by a lazy armorer on a late friday afternoon.
Thanks for the measurements P32
For anyone interested, here is another sight tool, minus the box.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Soviet-Original-SKS-sight-adjustment-tool/164377115575?hash=item2645a3bbb7:g:e~kAAOSwVGtdY9FG