did they have a spike bayo this early ,only thing on the receiver is s/n and the 26 code 2,300,000 , no import marks
the date sheet says early second year production , but says spike bayo was introduced much later , clock is ticking on this one , not sure i want to pull the trigger
Hey Hoo, How are ya.
Anyway, a 2 million /26\ would be a late '57 and should be a bottom sling swivel and blade bayonet with long collar threaded barrel.
im doing good , giving the boards a rest for a while , you doing well?
so that means it was later changed to a spiker then , the bolt carrier and stock are non matching , everything else is g2g , im still thinking for a 57 $700 might not be too bad considering a average chicom sold last week for $1,600 on GB , this is early , no import marks , no characters at s/n ,just the s/n and 26 , in good condition with a good bore
im going to grab it, take a chance
all over but the crying now ,lmao !!!
if my gut lied to me im may need $700 worth of consoling
Quote from: hoopharted on February 13, 2021, 12:24:19 PM
im doing good , giving the boards a rest for a while , you doing well?
so that means it was later changed to a spiker then , the bolt carrier and stock are non matching , everything else is g2g , im still thinking for a 57 $700 might not be too bad considering a average chicom sold last week for $1,600 on GB , this is early , no import marks , no characters at s/n ,just the s/n and 26 , in good condition with a good bore
Keepin' my head above water, lol.
Did you check the barrel to see if there were import stamps there? If no import stamps could either have been missed or a bringback. Could have been a field repair, Albanian import, or just a parts gun like some of the builds I have done in the past. If you go to the projects section you will see several threads I have about my builds. One includes an early 6 digit '57 and a '60 letter gun. The latter ended up getting an incorrect stock and a spiker due to that being the only thing I had at the time. Still looks good though.
As for price, seems a little steep to me. I would be looking to pay around $550-ish for a non-matching Chinese like that. A little more if it at least had the correct stock and blade bayonet.
Of course price may vary depending on what part of the country you are in.
i took a shot , its $150 bucks difference , with the way sks rifles are going up i dont think i can get hurt even so ive taken bigger hits during my K98 years , he says/claims non papered no import marked bring back so i take that with a grain of salt as i do with my no import marked rifle , so the fact no import marks alone i think makes up the $150 to get to $700 , import marks carry more weight to me than matching numbers , allot of battle rifles were repaired , so if anything a true battle rifle with matching numbers can draw some scrutiny as well
LMAO , its mine now , i have to love it , its like getting a ugly kid
Are you certain of the arsenal stamp? And 7 digit serial?
I ask only because there are a handful of arsenal stamps that, if poorly struck or worn, are often mistaken for the /26\ stamp.
Better yet... do you have any photos or links to the rifle?
Quote from: hoopharted on February 13, 2021, 12:46:04 PM
i took a shot , its $150 bucks difference , with the way sks rifles are going up i dont think i can get hurt even so ive taken bigger hits during my K98 years , he says/claims non papered no import marked bring back so i take that with a grain of salt as i do with my no import marked rifle , so the fact no import marks alone i think makes up the $150 to get to $700 , import marks carry more weight to me than matching numbers , allot of battle rifles were repaired , so if anything a true battle rifle with matching numbers can draw some scrutiny as well
Agreed, no marks does give it levity. What is it they say? Buy the gun not the story, but if you sell the gun, use the story to sell the gun. LOL
Main thing is, if it looks good and shoots good, it's worth having.
no problem posting it now , cant be snagged from me anymore , here you go
https://oldarmsofidaho.com/product/vietnam-bringback-sks-chinese-type-56/
he emailed me back and said no import marks
i gotta say , my gut traditionally does me pretty well , more often than not i come out ahead , now with that said , my dac has had me on a diet for the last year ,lost 22 lbs and most of my belly , i just hope i didnt lose my gun gut in the process
i also checked them out through search , they seem to be very reputable
Nice lookin' setup so I think you did okay. I did notice he calls it a '58, but the SKS Guide database says it's a late '57.
yes i noticed that as well during my research on it but if anything that worked in my favor
Hard to say w/o better photos, but I’d say that one looks legit as far as being a possible bringback with a replacement stock and spike bayo as replaced in theater.
You won’t get burned in today’s market at that price. thumb1
It has the look. No signs of an import mark or scrubbing thereof on the receiver rails or muzzle end of the barrel. The replacement spike bayonet may or may not have been installed "in country". I'd rate it a likely bringback. I'd say you did fine.
Clicking on the + sign in the link gave pretty high resolution photos
thanks fellas , i knew you all being the experts would know one way or another , i will be sure to post better pics when i get my grubby mitts on it
yes on the magnification , also while i was in my hand wrenching phase i captured a couple of the important pics and used my photo program to zoom even more in , i did about 2 days due diligence and this was the last stop on , pulling the trigger on it , but i reached that point where i just needed to jump , we all been there , but i did do some work leading up to it
Except for the stock it has a very nice patina for the time period.I think you did well for the price.
yea , those early SKS rifles just are not around , everyone is double fisting the ones they have
that didnt take long , sold some parts and paid back the bank account for the rifle and the Romy AK parts in one day
looks like it will be delivered to my FFL Wednesday , i always get delayed because i have duel citizenship so Hoo knows (<<<<---see what i did there?,lol) when it will come home , they made me wait a full week for my last rifle
Curious Hoo, do you have duel citizenship through your native nation or another country?
yea Native , im Mi'gmaq ,some call us Micmac hence the other boards name micmacman , born and raised hillbilly ,but my people on my fathers side are all from the Listuguj reserve in Quebec , because im registered with Bureau of Indian and Indigenous Affairs and enrolled in the Mi'gmaq Band , Canada had to grant me un hindered access to Tribal lands in Quebec ,so the only way was to grant duel citizenship , have Canadian SSN the whole bit
the secondary reason is , my father was Full blooded Mi'gmaq , there was a treaty in (i think) 1868 that states if you have at least one parent thats full blooded you yourself are to be afforded all rights and considerations as a full blooded Native , so when someone types in my Registration number it shows full status , or full blooded , as such the Mi'gmaq are a First Nation People , now First Nation People are recognized by both the US and Canadian governments as being direct decedents of the first humans to step foot on the Continent
As a result Natives that are recognized as First Nation people do not have borders on the North American Continent , essentially we are free to roam from the US/Mexico Border all the way up to the very last Aleutian Island in Alaska , my father , born and raised on the reserve in Quebec that was once called Restigouche after the Restigouche river was able to cross the border and enlist in the Army and off to fight in Korea seamlessly ,Canadian one day , US soldier the next
so as First Nation its also implied i have duel citizenship as well via birth right , the theory behind First Nation People is during the last Ice Age there was a Land/Ice bridge that connected what is now Siberia(Asia) and what is now Alaska (NA) , Humans trekked unwittingly across the bridge in search of more hospitable conditions , the the ice age waned and the bridge melted leaving Humans behind on the NA continent , Humans is a important word among the FN People , there is a word for Human in every language of First Nation Bands , we are not people , we are Humans , we also carry characteristics as Asian folks such as slanted eyes
when i go up to visit everyone loves having fun with me , they are actually the ones that coined "Hillbilly Indian" its allot of fun, we have a Powwow every August and about every other year i make the trip up , they all think im Larry the Cable Guy
Quote from: hoopharted on February 22, 2021, 03:41:29 PM
yea Native , im Mi'gmaq ,some call us Micmac hence the other boards name micmacman , born and raised hillbilly ,but my people on my fathers side are all from the Listuguj reserve in Quebec , because im registered with Bureau of Indian and Indigenous Affairs and enrolled in the Mi'gmaq Band , Canada had to grant me un hindered access to Tribal lands in Quebec ,so the only way was to grant duel citizenship , have Canadian SSN the whole bit
the secondary reason is , my father was Full blooded Mi'gmaq , there was a treaty in (i think) 1868 that states if you have at least one parent thats full blooded you yourself are to be afforded all rights and considerations as a full blooded Native , so when someone types in my Registration number it shows full status , or full blooded , as such the Mi'gmaq are a First Nation People , now First Nation People are recognized by both the US and Canadian governments as being direct decedents of the first humans to step foot on the Continent
As a result Natives that are recognized as First Nation people do not have borders on the North American Continent , essentially we are free to roam from the US/Mexico Border all the way up to the very last Aleutian Island in Alaska , my father , born and raised on the reserve in Quebec that was once called Restigouche after the Restigouche river was able to cross the border and enlist in the Army and off to fight in Korea seamlessly ,Canadian one day , US soldier the next
so as First Nation its also implied i have duel citizenship as well via birth right , the theory behind First Nation People is during the last Ice Age there was a Land/Ice bridge that connected what is now Siberia(Asia) and what is now Alaska (NA) , Humans trekked unwittingly across the bridge in search of more hospitable conditions , the the ice age waned and the bridge melted leaving Humans behind on the NA continent , Humans is a important word among the FN People , there is a word for Human in every language of First Nation Bands , we are not people , we are Humans , we also carry characteristics as Asian folks such as slanted eyes
Interesting background information, thanks! I didn't know you could have dual citizenship, that's very interesting.
well they must be getting some weather out there it seems to have stalled around Boise , thats the last entry , it was supposed to have been delivered Wednesday
i think FedEx lost the rifle , they cant give me a straight answer as to where my rifle is ,or when i can expect it , the first tracking info posted was left Boise facility on the 18th , then departed Salt Lake UT on the 19th , no arrival scan just left Boise 18 th and departed Salt lake 19th , then nothing ,its been frozen on "delivery pending"
contacted them Friday , said i should see it delivered today , clearly a lie since its still delivery pending , i hate FedEx , its always something with these idiots , now they say weather , i ordered a part for my AK kit from Tacoma Wa a week after the rifle shipped and it arrived via USPS Saturday , its been a while since i was in school but last i remember Idaho and Wa share a border
Quote from: hoopharted on March 01, 2021, 07:26:59 AM
i think FedEx lost the rifle , they cant give me a straight answer as to where my rifle is ,or when i can expect it , the first tracking info posted was left Boise facility on the 18th , then departed Salt Lake UT on the 19th , no arrival scan just left Boise 18 th and departed Salt lake 19th , then nothing ,its been frozen on "delivery pending"
contacted them Friday , said i should see it delivered today , clearly a lie since its still delivery pending , i hate FedEx , its always something with these idiots , now they say weather , i ordered a part for my AK kit from Tacoma Wa a week after the rifle shipped and it arrived via USPS Saturday , its been a while since i was in school but last i remember Idaho and Wa share a border
There was a day when Fedex was better than UPS for firearm related shipping, but they have had so many bad reports over the last years I don't see why people still use them. They are also more expensive. I've had better luck with USPS
The past 5 weeks or so have been ridiculous with shipping. I've shipped stuff at work via all the major carriers, including heavy freight, and by far FedEx is claiming 'weather issues' 3x more than anyone else. Don't get me wrong, that big freeze in the midwest & Texas screwed things up all over the place for everyone for about 9 days, but FedEx still sends me notice after notice about weather disruptions. I shipped some hardware from Abq, NM to El Monte, California last week via ground, and got an exemption on weather. What normally takes 3 days took 7 and delivery is scheduled for today (which I'm skeptical of). Last I knew, neither NM, AZ, or southern CA had any weather issues last week. Likely a CYA thing because they are so far behind in their previous deliveries that they are trying to play catch up by delaying any new ones.
just got off the phone , more mumbo jumbo , opened up a claim ticket (their idea) , that tells it all right there , they have no idea where it is , contacted the vendor , but there is a time difference ,they are not open yet
Quote from: hoopharted on March 01, 2021, 11:53:19 AM
just got off the phone , more mumbo jumbo , opened up a claim ticket (their idea) , that tells it all right there , they have no idea where it is , contacted the vendor , but there is a time difference ,they are not open yet
If I remember correctly, isn't the shipper the one who has to open the claim? That may just be USPS
I remember one time with UPS at one of the gunshops I worked at a package was lost for a few days then suddenly turned up with the driver. The rifle box had clear packaging tape around it in three places, which I thought weird since it was coming from a distributor, and when I took it from the drive it was super light. He turned to leave and I told him to hold on. I checked and someone had sliced the glued seam of the box open, removed the contents, then taped it back up and sent it on its way. (thus the few days in limbo) I asked the driver if he didn't think anything odd with the box since it was so light? He either was playing dumb or just couldn't be bothered. We notated it all and I took pictures then made hime write on his log what happened before I received the box. Then I called and made the claim and the police for a stolen forearm. Turned out someone in the Kansas City UPS hub was systematically pulling firearms from packaging and storing them under shelving until they could sneak them out of the building. I was just the one that got him caught. He went to jail and we did get our firearm. Don't know how many he stole or if any other shop got their firearms back.
At that time Fedex was a lot better to work with. Can't say that anymore. Tables have pretty much flipped.
Anyway, hope you get it sorted out Hoo
i guess claim was the wrong word , Javier called it a ticket , what ever he opened it wasnt a can of answers ,lol
Quote from: hoopharted on March 01, 2021, 12:20:21 PM
i guess claim was the wrong word , Javier called it a ticket , what ever he opened it wasnt a can of answers ,lol
LOL, can of answers, I like that. He probably just opened a tracking ticket to "officially" start looking for the package.
One thing I do.... as much as it sucks and some added expense... go the second day air route. Yes it costs more, but the less time it's in circulation, sitting on a conveyor or sorting table, it removes alot of sitting and temptation. It makes... can actually force the carrier throw a high priority on getting it from point A to point B as quickly as possible, carriers throw alot of effort into the next day and second day, as their reputation is based on the "get it there now factor" driven by big retail this day in time... and if they cant deliver a simple box of tampons and a quart of engine oil next day..... there's gonna be a bunch of pissed off online retail customers.
Boise?! Uh-oh...someone's out plinking with it already. ;)
Seriously, that's a drag! Hope it gets found or your costs settled. thumb1
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on March 01, 2021, 12:38:44 PM
Boise?! Uh-oh...someone's out plinking with it already. ;)
Seriously, that's a drag! Hope it gets found or your costs settled. thumb1
Same general area all your goodies you say you send to me get stuck... think1 rofl2
Quote from: Greasemonkey on March 01, 2021, 12:40:14 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on March 01, 2021, 12:38:44 PM
Boise?! Uh-oh...someone's out plinking with it already. ;)
Seriously, that's a drag! Hope it gets found or your costs settled. thumb1
Same general area all your goodies you say you send to me get stuck... think1 rofl2
Yup. It's either ID (PAX visits/works there) or MT (JustinHell's neck of the woods)...just coincidence though, not calling them out or anything :o rofl
Quote from: Greasemonkey on March 01, 2021, 12:35:02 PM
One thing I do.... as much as it sucks and some added expense... go the second day air route. Yes it costs more, but the less time it's in circulation, sitting on a conveyor or sorting table, it removes alot of sitting and temptation. It makes... can actually force the carrier throw a high priority on getting it from point A to point B as quickly as possible, carriers throw a lot of effort into the next day and second day, as their reputation is based on the "get it there now factor" driven by big retail this day in time... and if they cant deliver a simple box of tampons and a quart of engine oil next day..... there's gonna be a bunch of pissed off online retail customers.
That is part of the reason handguns are required to go minimum 2nd day air, so they aren't so exposed to the carrier populous. Told to me by an ATF agent and a UPS manager.
Quote from: Greatguns on March 01, 2021, 01:00:28 PM
Quote from: Greasemonkey on March 01, 2021, 12:35:02 PM
One thing I do.... as much as it sucks and some added expense... go the second day air route. Yes it costs more, but the less time it's in circulation, sitting on a conveyor or sorting table, it removes alot of sitting and temptation. It makes... can actually force the carrier throw a high priority on getting it from point A to point B as quickly as possible, carriers throw a lot of effort into the next day and second day, as their reputation is based on the "get it there now factor" driven by big retail this day in time... and if they cant deliver a simple box of tampons and a quart of engine oil next day..... there's gonna be a bunch of pissed off online retail customers.
That is part of the reason handguns are required to go minimum 2nd day air, so they aren't so exposed to the carrier populous. Told to me by an ATF agent and a UPS manager.
Last rifle I shipped went 2 day. Even if it's across the country, 2 day. In my experience.. the difference in it and standard shipping is your paying for empty space, next day and 2nd day are usually less than a load hauls, most carriers/standard shipping wait till a trailer is full or a filled to a certain capacity to ship, where as the faster shipments are on a much tighter schedule and the trailer could be full or only 20% full, but the freight leaves regardless of the amount loaded to keep on schedule.
Hey Hoo -
As a dual citizen type of guy, does that mean you also have access to the cool goodies that we can't get here?
Quote from: Larry D. on March 01, 2021, 01:51:38 PM
Hey Hoo -
As a dual citizen type of guy, does that mean you also have access to the cool goodies that we can't get here?
i think what is illegal in the US is still illegal in the US and vice versa , i still have to abide by the laws that apply to the country i reside in , what having duel citizenship does is if i wanted to pick up and move to Canada i could do so seamlessly ,no immigration hassles , visa's , like i said i have a SSN for Canada and US
well FedEx representative called back , my worst fears were confirmed , the dirtbags have been lying to me , they lost track of my rifle after it left salt lake , they have no idea where it is and said i need to start reimbursement from the seller , who must not be open today
i do not want the money , i want my rifle
Very sorry to hear. Bummer. I hope it will be found. It took 12 days for a small package sent with Fedex overnight service to get from NY to NJ. But it made it today. So fingers crossed.
Fedex has been pretty good in general but not flawless. Once they 'lost' a stroller sent to us ground from AZ, but the seller sent another one without too much hassle and they dealt with Fedex themselves. I'm still puzzled how some dirtbag stole it. It was a huge box, not something you can put in your pocket...
i dont know why the store i purchased it from was not open today , i think i will try and ride it out for a few more in hopes it turns up
Inform Fedex you are reporting it as stolen from within the Fedex infrastruture to both the Salt Lake City Police and the FBI as well as ATF. They don't like it too much when the law interfers with their routine, LOL. The union gets involved and it's hard to prosecute within the company, but get the law involved then it's out of the company and union's hands.
That's partly how we got action from UPS on the story I related a few posts back. We did report it as stolen to get the law involved. Only took 3-5 days after that to have it all solved
thats what some one else suggested on the AKForum (im micmacman there as well as a couple others , and sum_1_kut_cheez on ebay , HooPharted on GB and some other forums)
I see we have another flatulence fan aboard..... thumb1
Quote from: Larry D. on March 02, 2021, 10:47:17 AM
I see we have another flatulence fan aboard..... thumb1
anything for a laugh
as of this morning it was showing all red indicating still lost , just got home and it is showing out for delivery , this is me holding my breath
Quote from: hoopharted on March 02, 2021, 02:14:24 PM
as of this morning it was showing all red indicating still lost , just got home and it is showing out for delivery , this is me holding my breath
Good to hear.
lol , didnt get delivered , thinking they just type what ever they want into the system
Quote from: hoopharted on March 02, 2021, 07:32:52 PM
lol , didnt get delivered , thinking they just type what ever they want into the system
Well, that just plain blows.
Well , it finally showed up at my guys shop Wednsday, been sitting on delay again , kid bought a shotgun while I was there filling out the form , he finished before me , went right through , I was 5 minutes behind him and I'm starting day 3 of the delay , my ak receiver was delivered yesterday evening
Glad to hear that it DID show up! Better late than never on a gun you wanted, eh?
Seriously, good to hear it came out okay!
firstchoice
Well, that's a relief.
Yes it is , I'm thinking it was sitting somewhere ,and they didnt realize it until I asked where it was