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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Chinese SKS (Military) => Topic started by: pcke2000 on May 19, 2023, 01:22:43 AM

Title: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: pcke2000 on May 19, 2023, 01:22:43 AM
Looks like they started using Latin letter QC stamps even prior to production of letter series?
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: running-man on May 19, 2023, 10:22:28 AM
It wouldn't surprise me.  Type 24's were produced in China by 1935.  All that European influence including the transfer of machine tools and technicians most certainly included teaching the records-keeping, marking, and testing methodology in common use in Germany at the time.  That methodology already known at the arsenals could have carried over to when SKS production began.

Another possibility is that Russian influence of their QC stamp methodology is in play here and common letters to Cyrillic and Roman alphabets are what turns up from time to time.  There are still certain Cyrillic only letters in many early receiver stamps that I've seen though.

(https://i.ibb.co/9rbshTw/Venn-diagram-showing-Greek-Latin-and-Cyrillic-letters-svg.jpg)


Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: Boris Badinov on May 19, 2023, 12:18:09 PM
I am not aware of any Latin QC stamps on the early Chinese sks.

I thought the Chinese switched from Soviet QC stamps to numerals early on and then again to no stamps  at all by mid 1958?
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: pcke2000 on May 19, 2023, 12:32:07 PM
Here is the Latin letter QC stamp on the bolt carrier on my all matching 6-digit /26\. On Russian SKS, you normally see the OTK stamp, so I logically guess it's a QC stamp for Chinese.

The same letter is stamped on the backside of rear sight leaf (with e-penciled matching serial):


(https://i.ibb.co/Px7Htfp/IMG-2176.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2qD45f2)
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: Boris Badinov on May 19, 2023, 12:34:58 PM
I think you forgot the link.?
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: pcke2000 on May 19, 2023, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: Boris Badinov on May 19, 2023, 12:34:58 PM
I think you forgot the link.?

The pic did not show up? It worked well on my end. Can you see it now?

Or I forgot something else? Thanks.
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: Boris Badinov on May 19, 2023, 12:43:15 PM
Still cant see your fotos?

There are some stamps on this ghost rifle that look like a "T" but I think they are actually incomplete strikes of a number "1" stamp (serif w/ base)
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/195657-ghost.html

Partial strike "1" stamps
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/359515067.jpg
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/631542138.jpg

here are some partial strike "2" and "5" stamps for comparison:
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/534435348.jpg
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/206650560.jpg
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/819608756.jpg
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: pcke2000 on May 19, 2023, 12:44:15 PM
Another pic (of same stamp):


(https://i.ibb.co/pz6K04D/IMG-2175.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gTbWjt1)
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: pcke2000 on May 19, 2023, 12:45:53 PM
Quote from: Boris Badinov on May 19, 2023, 12:43:15 PM
Still cant see your fotos?

There are some stamps on this ghost rifle that look like a "T" but I think they are actually incomplete strikes of a number "1" stamp (serif w/ base)
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/195657-ghost.html

Partial strike "1" stamps
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/359515067.jpg
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/631542138.jpg


In this case, I don't think it's an incomplete '1'. It is definitely more like one of the Latin letters used on Chinese letter guns.
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: pcke2000 on May 19, 2023, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: Boris Badinov on May 19, 2023, 12:43:15 PM
Still cant see your fotos?

There are some stamps on this ghost rifle that look like a "T" but I think they are actually incomplete strikes of a number "1" stamp (serif w/ base)
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/195657-ghost.html

Partial strike "1" stamps
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/359515067.jpg
http://chinesesks.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/2/2/29221347/631542138.jpg


Sent you a message in case you still cannot see the pics.
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: Boris Badinov on May 19, 2023, 01:32:05 PM
I see now.


It doesn't look a T to me. Possibly it's a light strike ideogram stamp?
Title: Re: When did Chinese use old Latin letters on SKS?
Post by: Bacarnal on May 19, 2023, 04:29:45 PM
Kinda looks to me like the letter circled below from RM's diagram.


(https://i.ibb.co/R7SK1Fc/Venn-diagram-showing-Greek-Latin-and-Cyrillic-letters-svg.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCMNk6V)