This one is obviously a refurb, considering the rear action cover and butt stock having a little square with the diagonal line through it. It is all matching numbers starting with the Cyrillic D C and 4 serial numbers. The butt stock has actually been crossed out a couple times and then forced matched but it also is dated as a Tula 1953. What I am confused about is on the bolt side being the CCCP and then a different serial number. Other than some very minor scratches on the wood, it is in excellent condition and a super mirror shiny bore. Not a bad deal for $500? I would appreciate any and all feedback on helping me to identify this any better than I have here. Thank you.
(https://i.ibb.co/ysQrTQb/IMG-2619.jpg) (https://ibb.co/887H37S)
(https://i.ibb.co/hFhzgMc/IMG-2620.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QvzwJck)
(https://i.ibb.co/dJkjJjD/IMG-2621.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6q565X)
(https://i.ibb.co/fkJ0cnP/IMG-2622.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ycgjryq)
(https://i.ibb.co/VYvn4DZ/IMG-2623.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GQVYSkL)
(https://i.ibb.co/D5TvhYy/IMG-2624.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6gLTz8x)
(https://i.ibb.co/gSrqtW9/IMG-2626.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sKgxs1R)
(https://i.ibb.co/vJWycCD/IMG-2627.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P5yXrst)
(https://i.ibb.co/VjkngQC/IMG-2628.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JBS6vyp)
The CCCP number is the carbine's official import serial number recorded with ATF. CDI chose to assign a new S/N to all Russian SKS's they imported as opposed to CAI who translated the Cyrillic of the original S/N into Roman letters to comply with AtF regs.
$500 is not a bad price for a light refurb Russian Tula these days. The features indicate it is a 1952-1955 made carbine and the S/N font is most certainly Tula and not Izhevsk, but I'd have to check the S/N prefix against the database to get any more refined than that. My gut says with that leading "Д" it's a '53, but let me check more closely when I get to a computer.
Nice pick up! Worth 500 buck any day. The cover is a later replacement, a '53 would have a Tula star on it. The fonts all look Tula.
Quote from: Cz315 on October 10, 2024, 10:28:35 PM
Nice pick up! Worth 500 buck any day. The cover is a later replacement, a '53 would have a Tula star on it. The fonts all look Tula.
True this, I meant to mention the blank cover and forgot about it!
I looked through the database. Several ДГ prefixed guns from 1950 which we know this one is *not* because of the late round receiver. There is one unknown/uncategorized carbine in the database with similar characteristics, though this was a SinoBanian import and had a replacement Chinese receiver cover and a birch replacement Albanian stock):
(https://i.ibb.co/HgYbTLP/249-receiver.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/dL7hmMQ/249-right-whole.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PNSrLC1/249-left-whole.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Cpjp0ZB/249-barrel-lug.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/DWXFn9L/249-bolt-carrier.jpg)
I also found two other examples in the guns I have not yet entered into the database.
#1 with a replacement laminate stock and a '53 cover. Light refurb:
(https://i.ibb.co/8dBP0DW/2263-receiver.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/WxyxJLM/2263-receiver-cover-top2.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/T0dvnDV/2263-left-whole.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6FZmnSX/2263-receiver-cover.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HnbrRRM/2263-right-center.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1fPR6QG/2263-right-whole.jpg)
#2 Again with a replacement stock and a '53 cover. This time a heavy BBQ refurb.
(https://i.ibb.co/NTYMzgV/3200-receiver.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/34FbVkf/3200-right-whole.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RB6zJmz/3200-receiver-cover-top.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/THbqxsZ/3200-receiver-cover.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/86z73WY/3200-left-whole.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LSskbyc/3200-right-center.jpg)
Based on what I see, I still say it's a '53. Д is not a common prefix. There are only 29 in the whole database and all are either 1950 or 1953 produced carbines. If we had a pristine as-issued '53 with that prefix, we could be 99% certain, but as of right now this still a guess (educated & supported by a bit of evidence, but still a guess).
I really appreciate this website and all of you for your help and helping me trying to figure out more information about these rifles. You guys are a wealth of information. Thank you.
Beautiful. I have always found the TULA's more desirable to me with that big stamped star regardless if its a Mosin Nagant, a Nagant revolver,etc. I like the stamping on them more when compared to an Izhevsk.
Quote from: 100Acre on October 10, 2024, 12:01:08 PM
This one is obviously a refurb, considering the rear action cover and butt stock having a little square with the diagonal line through it. It is all matching numbers starting with the Cyrillic D C and 4 serial numbers. The butt stock has actually been crossed out a couple times and then forced matched but it also is dated as a Tula 1953. What I am confused about is on the bolt side being the CCCP and then a different serial number. Other than some very minor scratches on the wood, it is in excellent condition and a super mirror shiny bore. Not a bad deal for $500? I would appreciate any and all feedback on helping me to identify this any better than I have here. Thank you.